bradtem wrote:eBay does not allow the sale of tickets that are not actually in hand, so auctions for tickets there are being removed quickly. Once tickets are actually distributed I believe you will see them on eBay. eBay terms say you have to apply with local laws -- 11 states and various other regions prohibit scalping, another dozen have restrictions on it. I do not know if eBay enforces contractual terms (such as BM has) on ticket resale over face value. In the past tickets have often appeared on eBay at auction -- even when tickets were still for sale from the org, though the availability of those tickets tended to stop auctions from running away.
Mosquitopilate wrote:I hope people understand if you do not buy from these people on ebay/stubhub there will be more tix available on STEP maybe not right away but slowly but surely,It will keep prices down too. just relax and the tix will be there. I know there will be people who do not get some but every ticket counts either way if one person buys a ticket on ebay for 1,500$ we are doomed cause that man/woman who is sitting on a ticket or two is waiting to see if people will bite, will just do the same to pay for there trip
bradtem wrote:Trying to claim people don't own their tickets is an interesting thought but I could see a lot of trouble from that. Both from people who think they bought the tickets (they have already been charged) and would not like their ownership defined away, and from those who would protest any change in terms. While BMOrg retains the right to cancel out any ticket, and in particular retains it in the event of scalping, that doesn't mean you don't own the ticket.
Quite often the law goes the other way on scalping, understand. The law does not like an organization trying to control all its tickets, forbidding resale etc. That's restraint of trade. Tickets are a strange thing, because in some areas the law attacks the scalpers and in other areas it defends them. The reality is that you can't prevent scalping, even by making it illegal. Scalping is caused when a venue decides to sell tickets below market value for various other reasons. In the case of BMOrg its a non-commercial tradition. But you can't fight the market out in the default world, even if you can do it on the playa.
But wait, tickets appear to be selling for $1000 or more... That's because they are scarce. The market price would be on 35,000 tickets and as such would not be anywhere near the scarce price. In fact, the market price could easily have been under $390 because it's entirely possible there are not actually 35,000 people who would be willing to pay $390. I don't know that, I just say it's not inconsistent with what we have been told.
STEP does not have a chance as long as people are willing to pay these Scalper Assholes this kind of money...
And don't forget -- whatever fraction of tickets went to scalpers in the main sale lottery, that fraction of the STEP applicants will also be scalpers. Possibly more, if the scalpers take a special effort to get into STEP. Possibly most, if the scalpers write software to give them an advantage in the step queue. In addition, with the one ticket per entrant rule, some burners who go as a couple may give up if STEP only offers one ticket (or they will plan to buy another from a scalper.) Scalpers, on the other hand, will all participate in STEP as long as they believe there is good margin to be made.
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