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New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 2012

Postby juanita » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:50 pm

The new Burning Blog post is up with the LLC's plans going forward:

http://blog.burningman.com/2012/02/news ... city-2012/

Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 2012
Posted by Maid Marian
Marian Goodell is a Founding Board Member of Black Rock City LLC, and Burning Man’s Director of Business and Communications.

THE CHALLENGE WE FACE: DEMAND OUTSTRIPS SUPPLY

We promised we would get back to you by February 15th with our plans to resolve the ticket situation for Burning Man 2012. We all know there aren’t enough tickets for everyone who wants to participate in Black Rock City. However, it’s clear that the current situation has created holes in our social fabric. Many of the core volunteers, major interactive camps, art car projects, performance groups, and funded and unfunded art projects do not have enough tickets to bring their works to the playa. Here’s how we will remedy these challenges as fairly as we believe possible:

Burning Man organizers and staff will issue tickets to major theme camps and art projects using a process outlined below.
We will launch the STEP program on February 29th. Only those who registered and did not receive confirmation of tickets will be given access to STEP.
Low Income ticket applications will be accepted beginning February 29th.

There’s no way to sugarcoat this: the hard truth is that there are a lot of you who want to come to Black Rock City to celebrate your participation in the Burning Man culture this year, but not everyone will be able to attend. That sentence is about as painful to write as it is for you to read. We dearly wish we could just welcome everyone who feels drawn to Black Rock City. But, as we have explained in Andie Grace’s blog post: “Radical Inclusion, Meet the Other Nine,” it’s not possible to simply increase the number of tickets available for Burning Man 2012.

And unfortunately, the random draw of the Main Sale left inordinately large numbers of our core contributors — art teams, theme camp creators, mutant vehicle builders, performers, and Burning Man volunteers — without tickets. In fact, the ratio was so unexpectedly large it has punched significant holes in Black Rock City’s artistic, civic and functional infrastructure, putting the integrity of the event itself at risk. If we let market forces play out as they could with the remaining available tickets, it’s likely that Black Rock City would be functionally untenable for many of the collaborations that comprise our desert event.

There are indications that a large percentage of people attending Burning Man this year will be first-time Burners. As eager as we are to welcome our newest citizens into our community, it’s crucially important that we have a solid foundation of veteran Burners in Black Rock City to meet, greet and acculturate these eager new participants, ensuring that they not only survive the elements but also fully participate in the Burning Man culture.

And so we find ourselves now in a very difficult situation, one where there are no perfect solutions, only tradeoffs — and inevitably, significant disappointment for those who cannot obtain tickets. We believe that it’s critical that we attend to Black Rock City’s vital functions — ensuring that theme camps can assemble, art installations can be created, mutant vehicles can safely roam the playa, performance groups have their performers, and Burning Man’s volunteer crews are staffed to provide the vital community services that make our city work. We must shore up the collaborative infrastructure of our culture.

THE SOLUTION: DIRECTED TICKET DISTRIBUTION

We have made the difficult decision to take the 10,000 tickets that were slated to be sold via the Secondary Open Sale and manually redirect them to some of the vital groups and collaborations that make up Black Rock City: volunteers, theme camps, mutant vehicles, art installations and performance groups. These groups already have a relationship and contact points within the organization. We’re in the process of proactively identifying and reaching out to the established groups that fall into each of these categories, and offering organizers access to purchase enough tickets to provide for essential crew members.

Because we know this number cannot possibly satisfy the entirety of that demand, we will use practical criteria to determine eligibility. These groups will be reviewed for:

History – A camp, project or participatory work must be in our database from past years. (We have ways to track name changes for groups over time.)
Demonstrated Community Benefit – A project has been interactive in a way that has been experienced as meaningful, provides support for Black Rock City’s infrastructure, or provides services for our community. Basically, how the project helps make the community and create its magic.
LNT – A group has demonstrated adherence to and good practices around Leave No Trace and are committed to our community perpetuating the message of LNT.
10 Principles – A group or project fully embraces the 10 Principles in their entirety.
This analysis will consider a wide variety of projects rather than favoring just one type — large camps and small ones, self-funded as well as honorarium artists, Mutant Vehicles of all shapes and sizes, and performers of all kinds. The goal is to carefully and conscientiously reconstruct the rich tapestry of our community, based on information we’ve accumulated over years of facilitating our city around these key groups.

This process is not going to be perfect … it’s not always going to feel fair. And we’re well aware that there will be still be a great many deserving people who will be left out because we don’t have the means to welcome everyone. Again, there are no foolproof solutions for these remaining tickets, only tradeoffs. But we’re confident that through this process, we’ll be able to bolster some of the social, artistic and functional infrastructure of Black Rock City. This is by far one of the most difficult decisions we’ve ever had to make, and we do not make it lightly, but after much consultation and review of your feedback, we feel this approach has the widest base of support and is the best one to assure that we can build Black Rock City in 2012.

IT’S NOT OVER UNTIL THE LAST TICKET IS SOLD

If you don’t fall into one of those categories and didn’t get a ticket in the Main Sale, you still have some hope of acquiring a ticket, and we encourage you not to give up. Although it’s bound to be more scarce than usual, there is always a brisk aftermarket for tickets leading right up to the event; people’s plans change, and tickets are sold on the secondary market every year. To assist this, we are launching the Secure Ticket Exchange Program (STEP) on February 29th to facilitate such transactions. STEP will provide a secure, hassle-free, and centralized tool for selling unused tickets or buying tickets being offered, while helping all of us avoid scammers, scalpers and counterfeiters.

People selling their tickets back via STEP will be refunded the face value of the ticket plus the delivery fee (but not the service fees $7 – as these fees cover services already rendered and are not refundable). In order to encourage the use of STEP as a central resource, Burning Man has decided to cover the $12 “restocking fee” which includes an InTicketing fee and merchant fees that the credit card companies charge to process this type of refund.

WHO: Only registrants who did not get tickets in the Main Sale will be eligible to register for tickets through STEP … if you fall into this category, you will receive an email inviting you to register. Registration will place you in a first-come first-served queue, and you will be offered a ticket when one becomes available through the system. You may only purchase one ticket through STEP; this ticket is non-transferable and can only be held at Will Call. A STEP ticket is only for you.

You will be offered a ticket at the value that the seller paid ($240, $320 or $390), plus the standard $7 per ticket service fee and a $12 Will Call delivery fee. If you’re in the front of the line, and a ticket becomes available, you will receive an email offering it to you. If you don’t respond within 72 hours, or decline the ticket, it will be made available to the next person in the queue, and you will lose your place in line. You can re-enter the queue if you wish, but your place in line will not be held.

Our ticket team will closely monitor the queue, and if/when the queue grows large beyond the reasonable likelihood for people at the end to get tickets, we’ll pause it until we determine it becomes viable again. It isn’t helpful or fair to have a lot of people waiting with no hope of getting a ticket.

It’s not required that you only buy or sell your tickets through STEP … you can still sell your tickets to your friends directly. As always, we ask that in keeping with the Burning Man ethos, tickets only be sold at or below face value (plus documented fees), or gifted.

Our Low Income Ticket Program will launch on February 29th, and will offer 4,000 tickets at $160, as was originally planned. These tickets are intended for people who can provide documented proof of financial hardship through an online application process.

More information about STEP and the Low Income Program can be found on our ticket page.

WHAT DOES THE FUTURE OF BURNING MAN LOOK LIKE?

We’re obviously concerned with ticket sales for 2013 and beyond, and we’re looking at a variety of ways to ensure Burning Man’s future remains bright. Right now, everything is on the table, including many great suggestions from our community. This includes major potential overhauls of the ticket system, such as identity-based ticketing, non-transferable tickets, directed distribution ticket models, and more. This is a complex process of analysis, with lots of ramifications for internal logistics and the cultural dynamics of our community … this is far from a process of simply filling stadium seats. We are working with staff, external experts related to this field (including game theorists, sociologists, statisticians, festival producers, ticketing companies, software developers, widely-read bloggers, and more) and an advisory council made up of representative members of the community to determine what works best for Burning Man in the future.

We’re also exploring a number of options to increase the event’s capacity in the future, including ongoing negotiations with the BLM, extending the event timeframe, alternative event sites, and more. A key player in this scenario will be Burning Man’s Regional Network and the myriad events they offer. In fact, we’ve long been aware that the event in the desert would reach its limit. It’s part of why we have nurtured the Regional Network for more than 10 years, and why we’ve created the Burning Man Project, a global effort with year-round avenues to connect and support this cultural community. We expect they will play a very significant role in our future.

We’ve always been involved in proactive acculturation in order to bring in new members of our community as seamlessly as possible. In that light, we’re spearheading a number of acculturation efforts for first-timers this year. We’ve started ePlaya discussion threads for connecting theme camps and other projects with new participants. We plan a video podcast series, improved and updated roll-ups of first-timer resources, a web page to crowd-source the best first-timer tips our community has to offer, and we plan to engage all returning Burners in this effort.

One thing we do know is this: our understanding of “Radical Inclusion” is evolving… we will always welcome the stranger, and all are welcome to participate in the culture of Burning Man. But that doesn’t necessarily mean we can all fit in one place at one time. We’re going to have to find new ways to include those who wish to be a part of this amazing experiment.

FINALLY: THANK YOU

We are truly sorry about how this has all played out, and we want to thank you for your patience as we’ve worked through these difficult decisions … there are a lot of logistical and cultural moving parts that need to be considered, and it’s far from easy. We also want to thank you for your passion for this event and its culture, and for your suggestions and ideas about how to solve this problem … we’ve been listening to all of them.

It’s our goal to be honest, to be transparent, and to provide you updates as soon as we have solid information to offer. We’d rather it take extra time to get it right, than move too fast and get it wrong.

We hope to see you in Black Rock City this year, or in the future. And if not there, out in the world … wherever you’re manifesting Burning Man culture.
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby wraith » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:55 pm

Welp, there goes any hope of STEP solving the problem. By limiting it to only the people who tried and failed in the lottery, BMORG has just ensured a healthy scalper's market.
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby piehole » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:10 pm

ALLL 10,000

ALL 10,000

ALL 10,000

welp.
i don't know if i'm going anymore guys
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby danibel » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:12 pm

juanita wrote:The new Burning Blog post is up with the LLC's plans going forward:

http://blog.burningman.com/2012/02/news ... city-2012/
Only those who registered and did not receive confirmation of tickets will be given access to STEP.



IT’S NOT OVER UNTIL THE LAST TICKET IS SOLD



WHO: Only registrants who did not get tickets in the Main Sale will be eligible to register for tickets through STEP … if you fall into this category, you will receive an email inviting you to register. Registration will place you in a first-come first-served queue, and you will be offered a ticket when one becomes available through the system. You may only purchase one ticket through STEP; this ticket is non-transferable and can only be held at Will Call. A STEP ticket is only for you.



Wait - so the couples that did the right thing and only registered once for two tickets, will only be able to buy one ticket through STEP?! This is the case of some of my friends. I am so sad. BMorg had the opportunity to do the right thing and now they have screwed it up even more for the "little folk." Dumb.
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby Finxiekins » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:13 pm

piehole wrote:ALLL 10,000

ALL 10,000

ALL 10,000

welp.
i don't know if i'm going anymore guys

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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby piehole » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:17 pm

UGHHHH I'm still contemplating going, that was just a reaction.

I just need to gauge where my friends are at, and if worse comes to worst whether or not a nomadic virgin burn is something I'm mentally ready for.

ALL I CAN SAY at this point is *slanty face*
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby Milayna » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:18 pm

Looks like for me it's gonna be sea kayaking and camping on the Channel Islands last week of August.
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby Finxiekins » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:19 pm

piehole wrote:UGHHHH I'm still contemplating going, that was just a reaction.

I just need to gauge where my friends are at, and if worse comes to worst whether or not a nomadic virgin burn is something I'm mentally ready for.

ALL I CAN SAY at this point is *slanty face*


*Hug* I understand - Really hope to see you on the playa! Wanna meet the piehole.
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby gibson_ » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:20 pm

I finally convinced one of my friends to go with me, in fact he might even be coming out for our regional this May.

Sounds like we'll kindof *have* to buy him a ticket from a scalper now. That sucks :(, but I'll be honest, I think I'm going to have to be self reliant on this one. "Face value or fuck off"...yeah, but...being honest is kindof what got me *into* this mess, you know?

I really hope the market gets flooded with tickets this summer. I hope...

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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby wraith » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:20 pm

Milayna wrote:Looks like for me it's gonna be sea kayaking and camping on the Channel Islands last week of August.


Yeah, I'm thinking it's going to be a section of the Appalacian Trail this year.
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby inthecolumbiagorge » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:21 pm

We got 4 tickets in the lottery and now I don't really know if I want to go.

Tell me...is everyone that was a worthy burner part of a registered theme camp???? How do they possibly think this is OK? I can see tickets for airport, alter abled transportation and whatever other camps that actually are required to run the burn, but anyone else???? How do they make that choice? Radical inclusion my ass!

Dave Matthews at the gorge for Labor day weekend is sounding mighty fine right about now! Pretty straight forward. Tickets go on sale.....if you get one you do.....no one else decides your fate!
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:23 pm

I think you're right, gorge, and I'm in a theme camp...

poof...
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Postby moonwatcher » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:24 pm

With STEP's one ticket limit, there goes the Burn for me...
There is no way I could go without my wife. It wouldn't be fair to her for me to spend all that money (ticket, rental vehicle, all other expenses) and leave her behind.
I guess it is a great way to clear the queue though...

Burning Man becomes a singles only event...!
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Postby MIse » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:25 pm

I seriously dont mind the 10k being distributed to theme camps if thats what it takes, but the limiting of STEP to 1 per person is a serious **** up....theres 4 of us looking to go from Ireland, only 2 registered for 2 tickets each as we felt that was the right way to go about things & neither of us came out in the lottery.
Now we've only a faint hope of getting 2 tickets at face value through STEP when we need 4?!? :cry:

The thing that kills is that we've already laid down $1000 as a deposit on an RV....heartbroken :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Postby monte » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:27 pm

a sad day for Burning Man... :(
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Postby Herring » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:28 pm

danibel wrote:Wait - so the couples that did the right thing and only registered once for two tickets, will only be able to buy one ticket through STEP?! This is the case of some of my friends. I am so sad. BMorg had the opportunity to do the right thing and now they have screwed it up even more for the "little folk." Dumb.


Yep, my honey and I are out for sure in 2012 due to this. Unless we can get low income or emergency service volunteer tickets. It's cool, we'll just put it all into Flipside this May. Oh well.

I do think they made the right choice with those last 10,000; regionals that use a lottery ticket system still ensure the most vital volunteers get tickets. But they could still make STEP will-call only without eliminating couples that signed up under one name.
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Postby mama g » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:29 pm

breaking up friends, family, couples? nice. and how do you keep artists/performers/theme camps honest, and not inflate the number of tickets they need on behalf of their ticketless friends?
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Postby Dr. Pyro » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:30 pm

It's too bad they took down the Tickets thread from 2011. As late as August 28 there were tickets available at cost. People cancel out, get arrested, change jobs, die, and so on. Burners are a particularly unreliable group to follow through with last-minute plans. Do not change your plans to get to the desert. Things will work out. This will be my 14th year and I've seen it all. So cheer up and we'll see you in the dust.
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby moonwatcher » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:31 pm

I also do not mind the 10K tickets going to established camps.
But limiting STEP to one ticket is drastic and really unfair - especially if you previously registered for 2 tickets. If you registered for 2 tickets in the lottery (only, and only once), you should be able to have a chance at 2 tickets in STEP.
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Postby Jackass » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:32 pm

Ok, now I'm a bit worried by this situation...
Sooner or later, it will get real strange...

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Postby theCryptofishist » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:34 pm

Doc's right. There's going to be plenty of opportunity outside STEP. Of course, if you're coming from overseas you might want to research some alternate. Just because of the expense, and it's gonna be harder to work your local network.

I'm not that thrilled about STEP being all will call. I hate getting out of the van--I'm afraid that someone will park next to me...
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Postby OldSoulYoungBody » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:34 pm

Not being able to buy 2 tickets when I origionally registered for two in the lotto is bull****. I would have had my love and myself register seperately for 1 each if I had known that's the case. Why reward the people who multiregistered?
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Postby MrMullen » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:38 pm

The only "one ticket through STEP" is pretty stupid. So I played by the rules and now I can only get one ticket? Nice!
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Postby CROW29 » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:41 pm

Well, it's obvious that BMORG has an incredible problem on it's hands trying to resolve this "cluster****", and I fully understand that not everyone who wants a ticket is going to get one. However, it is simply amazing that they are restricting the original participants who were unsuccessful in obtaining a ticket to one ticket. Both my wife and a friend signed on to the lottery requesting 2 tickets each to cover themselves and their spouse. This is in keeping with BMORG's wishes to only order what you need in the lottery and not hedge one's bet by having all 4 of us request 2 tickets each. So if my wife is successful in getting a ticket through STEP, it's basically worthless, unless I can come up with one in the open market somewhere. Most likely thing to happen is she would end up having to put it up for sale later, as she's not going to go by herself. Not worth the hassle anymore. Glad I got to go the years I did.
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Postby moonrise » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:42 pm

Quote the LLC said:

There are indications that a large percentage of people attending Burning Man this year will be first-time Burners. As eager as we are to welcome our newest citizens into our community, it’s crucially important that we have a solid foundation of veteran Burners in Black Rock City to meet, greet and acculturate these eager new participants, ensuring that they not only survive the elements but also fully participate in the Burning Man culture. end quote

Oh good! Maybe there'll be less egotisical behaviour and less private, snobby camps & participants (we can only hope) and more participation of all sorts.

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Postby nncoco » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:43 pm

I support this decision 100%.

Theme camps are the heart and soul of Burning Man.

Call it entitlement of you want, but they need to be there or the whole event degenerates into a dusty tailgate party.
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby moonwatcher » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:43 pm

theCryptofishist wrote:Doc's right. There's going to be plenty of opportunity outside STEP. Of course, if you're coming from overseas you might want to research some alternate. Just because of the expense, and it's gonna be harder to work your local network.


I understand all about the positive thinking, etc.
But realistically, if you need to travel - from overseas or even from 2-3 days away, you need to make some arrangements: vacation time, rentals, etc. Unless you KNOW you have tickets, you may be wasting your time. Plus, not everyone has access to a "local network" to find tickets to find tickets at or near face-value.
This probably ends Burning Man 2012 for a lot of people. Which I believe is the unstated purpose of the one-ticket STEP approach.
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Postby marcgorcey » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:44 pm

I'm really confused as to why they can't register existing tickets that went out in the lottery.

One of the reasons given was logistics of having to show ID at will call and so on - but they'll have to do that now anyway, right ?

So there are (IMO) likely scalpers still holding tickets, and they can look forward to selling them at an even bigger margin now.

Why not register existing tickets ? If you're going to gift a ticket, just supply the name. If your gift recipient can't go, you can give it back to STEP. Allowing 'maybe' attendees in this environment when so many long time burners are shut out is just heartbreaking.
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby haolegolucky » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:46 pm

Jeebus...I only signed up for one ticket and was rejected at the top tier, but yah...go ahead and break up all the people who were responsible and only signed up for two. My partner starts law school in fall so she couldn't go this year but if we had signed up for two and then this happened, neither of us would go.

Bullshit.
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Re: New Blog - Ticket Update: Rebuilding Black Rock City 201

Postby nncoco » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:46 pm

STEP needs to be open to everyone, not just people who were skipped in the lottery.

Several people I know were caught off guard because they were waiting for the open sale.

It is what they were used to in prior years. Don't shut them out.
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