theCryptofishist wrote:I do not have a ticket. It disappoints me that I may not see the largest upheavel in the community since I've joined, but I'd prefer not to be gifted by the llc because my camp leader says that I'm vital to the camp/village. I do not believe that it's in the long term interest of the event to create new sorts of priveledge.
theCryptofishist wrote:I think that you are yet another person who has created a system that makes sure that he gets a ticket and packages it up very nicely in what he does not recognize are rationalizations.
ZaphodBurner wrote:theCryptofishist wrote:I think that you are yet another person who has created a system that makes sure that he gets a ticket and packages it up very nicely in what he does not recognize are rationalizations.
Well, I DID ask...
I was trying to be polite in spite of the fact that most of the time I post anything, if you respond at all it's some snarky-ass quip, which you've been doing for years. One time, I posted something and you asked whether I ever posted anything interesting. Because of you, Cryptofishist, I quit participating in the e-playa for months.
This time, I formed my questions respectfully and you respond with a half-ass attempt at psychotherapy and a thinly-veiled personal attack. So if you want, I can do it this way:
The topic of the thread is "Positive Suggestions for Fixing What is Obviously Broken" Of the 95 posts in it so far, I don't see ANY "positive suggestion" or anything from you longer than a snarky one-liner shitting on people's ideas and showing your friends how cool you are. Your contribution to this discussion so far boils down to things like:
"And would slow down the lines..."
"Oh, you are just so special that my heart is breaking..."
Other than demonstrating your alpha status over the lesser e-playa veterans who are obviously less hip than you; other than somebody who's only contribution to this discussion is to hack other people's attempt at "positive suggestions";
Other than somebody who's so interesting you've made 27,000 posts to the e-playa, who the fuck do you think you are? Do you have a positive idea to share or are you just here to hack people? Envision a discussion without you in it.
theCryptofishist wrote:I do not have a ticket. It disappoints me that I may not see the largest upheavel in the community since I've joined, but I'd prefer not to be gifted by the llc because my camp leader says that I'm vital to the camp/village. I do not believe that it's in the long term interest of the event to create new sorts of priveledge. That way lies, imho, dismalfication.
lemur wrote:what crypto said isnt a personal attack in my mind..
lemur wrote:plenty of other people have been coming up with solutions that would remove all barriers to them personally getting a ticket.. not being able to see that those solutions are in fact selfish ones
... there are plenty of other great and awesome biting ways for crypto to have attacked you than to simply say youre rationalizing
...i bet that she is a big enough girl that she would be able to attack you without making thinly veiled attacks, as well!
lemur wrote:p i guess we can guess she might have hit the nail on the head because you just let off a big stinker of boring attacks...
how could we envision a burning man without YOU there!! but, ..i think youve actually done this one for us.. with many posts talkin about how burning man is gonna miss camps such as yours
ZaphodBurner wrote:theCryptofishist wrote:I do not have a ticket.
But if you consider it a survivalist event, or pretty much anything in the free world with maximum occupancy, those who work the hardest are most deserving of the rewards. You want the best and most committed on your team. If you've invested x amount of years, dollars and sweat equity, why should you be bumped off the boat so that some random johnny-come-lately or scalper-whore can take your place?
What do you think about that?
Colonel Monk wrote: (BTW, it was also alot of fun, but the fun is ALL in cruising it around in BRC, giving the masses rides, and so on, which you have to be at the event to enjoy)
Colonel Monk wrote:Sorry. This probably is not what the OP had in mind for this thread, but it does fit at least part of the title "Obviously Broken".
Token wrote:Who the fuck are you and what did you do with Iso?
Did they medicate The Badger?
Damn, now I've seen everything.
BBadger wrote:Isotopia, of all people, wanting positive solutions? And ideas?
These are dark times.
Dark times indeed.
robrob wrote:Colonel Monk wrote: (BTW, it was also alot of fun, but the fun is ALL in cruising it around in BRC, giving the masses rides, and so on, which you have to be at the event to enjoy)
in my experience, many of the big mv owners seem more interested in keeping the masses off their private party yachts, but hey, they built it and brought it...
315and EGO wrote: There are a few things that we could do to help out the infrastructure for the population of the city and exodus. I took a look at last years sat image and tried to find something on reducing the amount of cars. Then I thought CARS!!
big baby jesus wrote:My feeble attempt at a solution...
How about a date based ticketing system? Your ticket is good for entry only on a certain date.
The theme camps, mutant vehicles, installations, art cars and such that need prior BMORG approval are issued the first batch of tickets when their camp/art is approved. They know how many people they will need to help them with set-up, they know when those people need to be there so they are issued tickets in accordance with their submitted plans. BMORG allows them to buy a single ticket for a later date to accommodate an partner/spouse/donor to come out later in the week.
After that, ticketing priority is based on arrival date. The ticket requests for people that arrive on Monday get priority over Tuesday, Tuesdays over Wednesdays and so on.
You wouldn't need multiple ticket offerings, if two orders come in at the same time and one is for someone arriving on Wednesday and one is requesting entrance on Friday, Wednesday gets the ticket.
Your ticket is only valid for the date of entry, so the gatekeepers have an idea as to how many people will be coming in that day. If you request a Tuesday ticket and show up on Thursday you don't get in.
Allow people to order two tickets so spouses/partners/friends can plan.
There is one ticket price, regardless of entry date.
It rewards self-reliance (be there when you said you would be)
Scalpers aren't much of an issue because it forces them to commit to a certain entry date. If they try and buy Friday tickets, they're of no value Saturday and weekend tickets are the last to be released.
If the event sells out, then it's full of people who have committed to being there all week. The contributors get in. The scalpers and sparkle ponies are at the back of the line.
It might work...
motskyroonmatick wrote:Jesus fuck! This thread went from Positive Fixing Broken to Bat Shit Crazy in 2 shakes. Get a grip.
Capnmike wrote: <snip> Stagger the dates so groupies can attend all or some... <snip>
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