Pre Sale stats?

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Pre Sale stats?

Postby Borris » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:46 pm

Any chance BMOrg will publish the stats for the pre sale lottery? how many people applied? for how many tickets?
Shit, where was i for the last week... ehm...
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Re: Pre Sale stats?

Postby trilobyte » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:46 pm

That information will not be published.
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Re: Pre Sale stats?

Postby Ratty » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:18 pm

That's sad. Everybody's curious. What would it hurt to be transparent? After all. BM is a non-profit now. What I want to know is......They stopped the retail sales. Are they going to stop the 'Preapar for the Playa sale' too? I give a demonstration on tutu making. It's great fun but totally commercial.
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Re: Pre Sale stats?

Postby trilobyte » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:29 pm

For a number of reasons, the BMOrg chooses not to publish every fact and statistic surrounding the event (though quite a bit of information is made available post event via the AfterBurn report). Burning Man is not non-profit now. The event is still governed by the LLC, not the newly formed Burning Man Project.

As far as I'm aware, you'd want to contact the organizers of Prepare For The Playa regarding questions about their plans.
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Re: Pre Sale stats?

Postby Igneouss » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:35 am

Trilobite is correct.
Try asking how much profit they made last year or what the salaries and bonuses are for the 6. See what kind of reaction you get. Ask yourself why this information needs to be secret... Ask yourself if what this says about the 1000s of people that volunteered their blood and sweat to build this event.

There is absolutely no law or statute that prevents the LLC from disclosing this sort of info. It is strictly 'voluntary' on their part. They simply choose not to disclose...
Basic b/e analysis:
2005 $243K
06 $855K
07 $1.0M
08 $1.1M
09 $0
10 $1.1M
11 $1.2M
12 $1.2M
That’s $6.8M that thousands of volunteers deserve to know about. Capitalism is alive at BM. Tickets are the commodity. Others have estimated higher profits.
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Re: Pre Sale stats?

Postby trilobyte » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:54 am

Get over it, Igneouss.
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Re: Pre Sale stats?

Postby Igneouss » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:17 am

No.

Transparency = honesty.
Basic b/e analysis:
2005 $243K
06 $855K
07 $1.0M
08 $1.1M
09 $0
10 $1.1M
11 $1.2M
12 $1.2M
That’s $6.8M that thousands of volunteers deserve to know about. Capitalism is alive at BM. Tickets are the commodity. Others have estimated higher profits.
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Re: Pre Sale stats?

Postby trilobyte » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:44 am

To suggest that anything less than sharing every bit of information with all customers is dishonest is, quite frankly, ludicrous. The BMOrg is under no obligation (legal or otherwise) to disclose that information publicly.
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Re: Pre Sale stats?

Postby Igneouss » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:37 am

trilobyte wrote:To suggest that anything less than sharing every bit of information with all customers is dishonest is, quite frankly, ludicrous. The BMOrg is under no obligation (legal or otherwise) to disclose that information publicly.


You are correct.
Basic b/e analysis:
2005 $243K
06 $855K
07 $1.0M
08 $1.1M
09 $0
10 $1.1M
11 $1.2M
12 $1.2M
That’s $6.8M that thousands of volunteers deserve to know about. Capitalism is alive at BM. Tickets are the commodity. Others have estimated higher profits.
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