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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby trilobyte » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:26 pm

Nope, when a name is drawn the order is fulfilled completely.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby oneeyeddick » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:10 pm

oh yeah, like you really know that! 8)
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Did any one put in for the Holiday tickets and NOT get them?

Postby Galaxo Magic » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:07 pm

Just curious if anybody got rejected in the ticket lottery.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby Galaxo Magic » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:15 pm

Gracias Savannah, I did not look far enough. Just curious as both of my friends who went for the pre-order have scored two each.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby trilobyte » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:59 pm

Emails will go out to those who weren't able to get tickets once the drawing's complete, should be on Monday.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby teppy » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:28 am

I got a message "Unfortunately, when we initiated the transaction your credit card was declined..."

However when checking with my bank, they did get a preauthorization from Burning Man for $1.01 on 12/14 which was accepted, and have gotten no further preauthorization or charge attempts from Burning Man since then.

So something in the ticketing system is messed up. I've written to BMOrg with the above info as requested - we'll see what happens.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby trilobyte » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:41 am

The pre-authorization for $1.01 verifies the numbers and sets up the transaction heading into the drawing, the request for authorization would follow a short time later. When the charge in the full amount was attempted, the bank declined the transaction (for whatever reason), there would be no additional invoice hitting your account. Contacting them as per the instructions in the email you received is the best thing to do at this point.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby teppy » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:41 pm

Banks track attempted charges that were declined, not just successful charges: The bank said that no further charge was *attempted* after the $1.01.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby trilobyte » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:49 pm

Yes, but many (well, most) don't show those (declined purchases) on web site transaction history pages. But to reiterate again, contacting Participant Services per the instructions in the email is the best thing you can do at this point.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby 5280MeV » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:27 am

Tuesday, and so far I have not seen a report of the legendary rejection email, just cc charging problems. Did I miss a post?

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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby oneeyeddick » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:42 am

When applying for a sweepstakes like this one it is important to check your spam folder also.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby trilobyte » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:47 am

I can confirm that all the email notifications have gone out to everyone who registered for the pre-sale (whether tickets were awarded or not).
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby CapnJoe » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:27 am

Were all the tickets sold?
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby trilobyte » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:30 am

BMOrg doesn't generally make that information available until the AfterBurn report.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby CapnJoe » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:07 pm

[quote="trilobyte"]BMOrg doesn't generally make that information available until the AfterBurn report.[/quote]
So we never know what might be going on until it doesn' make any difference!
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby Nipple » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:28 pm

If there were still some presale tickets available, would you travel back in time and sign up for the presale?
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby trilobyte » Tue Dec 20, 2011 12:32 pm

BMOrg has never provided that kind of information about pre-sales/ticket sales before the event. If anything, this year has more transparency than in years past, since they're identifying the number of tickets in the highest pricing tiers.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby remi » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:14 pm

trilobyte wrote:BMOrg doesn't generally make that information available until the AfterBurn report.


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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby 5280MeV » Tue Dec 20, 2011 1:52 pm

Well, all of this info is critically important to my Empty Bleachers Theme Camp. If more than 5000 or so people go to Burning Man, then I won't be able to take up everything between G and L from 6:00 to 9:30. Without all that space, the whole ambiance of the place is ruined.

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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby skyhawkecks » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:29 pm

When do the Afterburn reports typically come out?
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby Nipple » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:34 pm

We're still waiting on the After the Burn report from 2011.

I wouldn't wait for the Afterburn report to buy tickets.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby Sham » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:57 pm

skyhawkecks wrote:When do the Afterburn reports typically come out?

Usually after the theme is offically announced.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby trilobyte » Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:47 pm

The report generally comes out several months after that year's event, and usually before the following year's event. They can be found here.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby Sammael » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:22 am

Denied. 1 ticket. :( Guess there were not 7000 after all. Karma hates me. Lost my ticket last year and had to pay a scalper a thousand bucks (lost my friends tic too) on the Sunday before opening. I must have kicked puppies in a previous life, Damn karma.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby trilobyte » Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:28 am

No, there weren't 7000 - there were 3000 tickets. Don't worry though, your registration info will carry forward into the main sale, where you'll have three chances at a total of 40,000 tickets (instead of a single chance at 3,000 tickets). Good luck, and in the likelihood you are awarded tickets in the main sale, make sure you don't lose 'em! :)
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby lemur » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:18 am

i still havnt written my afterburn report for 2011... unless the powers that be decide i dont get to write my section of it this year, id say i wouldnt hold my breath!


last year afterburn for 2010 came out in march (and as seems to usually happen not 100% of the stuff was there when it came out)
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby funkyjigsaw » Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:16 am

trilobyte wrote:No, there weren't 7000 - there were 3000 tickets. Don't worry though, your registration info will carry forward into the main sale, where you'll have three chances at a total of 40,000 tickets (instead of a single chance at 3,000 tickets). Good luck, and in the likelihood you are awarded tickets in the main sale, make sure you don't lose 'em! :)


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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby remi » Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:15 am

trilobyte wrote:No, there weren't 7000 - there were 3000 tickets. Don't worry though, your registration info will carry forward into the main sale, where you'll have three chances at a total of 40,000 tickets (instead of a single chance at 3,000 tickets). Good luck, and in the likelihood you are awarded tickets in the main sale, make sure you don't lose 'em! :)


Technically, wouldn't it be 1 chance at 10,000, 1 chance at 15,000 then 1 chance at 15,000.. (providing you don't win on your previous chances.) or just one chance at 40,000?

Either way, a much better chance then 1 at 3000.. however, I can see there being more participants for the main sale... but not enough to make your chance of winning not really really really super good.
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby trilobyte » Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:38 am

For people registering at tier 3 (which includes carryovers from the pre-sale), that comes to 3 (you know, 1+1+1) chances to be awarded tickets (since they'll be a part of the tier 1, tier 2, and tier 3 draws). And the total number of tickets is 40,000.

The main sale is structured so that even if there's a stronger than usual increase in ticket demand, there should still be enough tickets to go around. If you've signed up for tier 3, the only way your odds really dip below 100% is if there's a ton of hoarding (or if suddenly in a terrible economy there's a growth spike in January demand that's double the previous best growth year). And even under those circumstances, the odds are still really really good. Where people are potentially "at risk" in the main sale are with the lower tiers, since it's a significantly smaller pool of tickets. But to be fair, that's always been a challenge (lowest tier sold out very quickly on day 1). At least this year there will be 10K tier 1's instead of 8K (last year's number).
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Re: Denied a pre-sale ticket??

Postby FlyingMonkey » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:22 am

Sammael wrote:Denied. 1 ticket. :( Guess there were not 7000 after all. Karma hates me. Lost my ticket last year and had to pay a scalper a thousand bucks (lost my friends tic too) on the Sunday before opening. I must have kicked puppies in a previous life, Damn karma.


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