Mist vs. Swamp

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Mist vs. Swamp

Postby Andrei » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:17 am

I wanted to build a swamp cooler but because I am traveling and can't prebuilt it and test it at home got to thinking of alternatives.

What do you know, experienced about mist producing cooler "car humidifiers"

Would something like this work for a tent?
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/3 ... ?locale=en
http://shop1.laservers.com/merchant.mv? ... gory_Code=

Are they inferior to the all mighty swamp coolers?
From what I read the spraying nozzle gets staffed with dust but I can solve that. (find a good one, bring extra, clean it)

To my understanding, swamp cooler system is just a way to make water evaporate faster to increase humidity in a closed space. Right? Maybe few mist producing coolers can match that.

Let me know that you think.

I was also considering this unit. Will have to buy an extra cooler but, did anyone used it? How did you like it?
http://www.kooleraire.com/12%20volt%20a ... ioners.htm
it’s not a swamp cooler really.

Thank you for advice :wink:
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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby FIGJAM » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:11 am

The first one will use a LOT of power and not help at all.

The second one works fine for personal cooling as long as you keep sprying your self.

The last one will work if you have enough money to buy a lot of ice. :roll:
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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby Ugly Dougly » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:21 am

The first link is for something that belongs indoors. Its mist will quickly be blown away on the playa.
The second, a personal misting fan, well, I've seen them a lot out there. I prefer a garden mister, Mister.
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Some people rely on it for a "shower". You could rig it up inside your tent to mist by itelf without you holding it, but you'd have to pump it once in a while.
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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby Andrei » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:59 am

will i be better off with a swamp cooler though?
I am looking to cool a tent, not spray myself with mist.

there are many different mist systems awaliable somthing like these


http://www.homedepot.com/Appliances-Hea ... reId=10051

http://www.homedepot.com/Appliances-Hea ... reId=10051


http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZb ... ogId=10053

Do you know of a mist system that will be superior to swamp cooler. someone here recomended this
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R ... reId=10051
looks like fun idea, still have to do more research on it
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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby FIGJAM » Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:18 am

Those tiny emiters use a half gallon of water per hour EACH.

I vote cooler, but I'm biased. 8)
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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby Colonel Monk » Wed May 15, 2013 9:28 am

I tried a mister several years ago under our shade.... if it's in the wind it will blow away. The drips that are inherent in the mister system will turn the playa in your camp into a mud pit.

YMMV, but I just don't think it works.

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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby Boijoy » Wed May 15, 2013 9:59 am

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I use one of these & clip the misting end to a small fan. does the trick inside my ten or under the shade.
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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby Boijoy » Wed May 15, 2013 10:00 am

heeeeyyyyyyyyyy where did my picture go mannn ???
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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby Andrei » Fri May 17, 2013 7:42 am

yep, I was worried about this shit last year. :-)
turns out its not even hot there. its dry, which is a nice thing because the humidity is what makes it bad.

the spray bottles from a dollar store is all you need, in my opinion
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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby dragonpilot » Tue May 28, 2013 1:28 pm

For a personal mister I like: http://www.amazon.com/Misty-Mate-Person ... B000ZK9GLY. It's not going to cool an entire tent, especially during the heat of the day, but as a personal mister it works great. It works best when I'm sitting under a shade structure. If it's windy (which improves its effectiveness) I simply hold the spray nozzle upwind allowing the mist to hit me. I like the portability as I can take it with me on playa excursions.

There are plenty of large art structures in the deep playa that throw off enough shade to allow refreshing respites...and it's a great way to make new friends.
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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby illy dilly » Tue May 28, 2013 1:38 pm

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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby lucky420 » Tue May 28, 2013 2:17 pm

as a native northern nevadan this is what i do if I'm feeling to hot on the playa.

1. grab a beer or whatever your beverage choice

2. find a shady spot

3. enjoy beverage and watch the scenery

4. and dont move for awhile or until you've acclimated to the heat :mrgreen:
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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby FIGJAM » Tue May 28, 2013 3:38 pm

5. or untill you've clamatoed to the heat. 8)
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Re: Mist vs. Swamp

Postby Elliot » Tue May 28, 2013 7:30 pm

Andrei wrote:To my understanding, swamp cooler system is just a way to make water evaporate faster to increase humidity in a closed space. Right?

Wrong. The humidity is an unfortunate byproduct of the heat-removal process. Heat is removed from the air thru the process of converting water to vapor. It takes energy to perform this conversion, and that energy comes out of the air that passes thru the device -- from outdoors to indoors.

For it to work, air must be able to pass out of the other side of the building (open a window)to carry moisture out and allow more air in.

The process works well in a dry climate. It does not work in a humid climate, because the air can not absorb any more moisture.

Someone with more precise knowledge will be along soon.

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