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Swamp Coolers, Cooler Management, Dry Ice, Misting Systems, and just plain how to beat the heat.

Postby Token » Fri May 21, 2010 6:26 am

I love the simplicity of the design.

Wish there was a way to use the fan in a push rather than pull configuration so that it is not in the moisture path.
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Postby FIGJAM » Fri May 21, 2010 6:36 am

Swamp coolers have big squrrel cage blowers with pullies and a belt, but you could use a cage from a cars heater fan blower and make some kind of shroud. My design keeps the fan motor cool and it didnt get wet.
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Postby FIGJAM » Fri May 21, 2010 6:42 am

You might be able to replace the pad with some kind of loose batting from a fabric store. Anything that will stay damp and alow air flow will work. The old coolers used sisel.
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Postby FIGJAM » Fri May 21, 2010 9:37 am

Ok, found a replacement for pad material that you should find at any upholesty shop...

http://www.rochfordsupply.com/product_listing.asp_Q_CatID_E_416_A_SubCatID_E_475_A_ProdID_E_3387_A_promoid_E_5
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Postby chris2010 » Fri May 21, 2010 10:22 pm

FIGJAM wrote:
chris2010 wrote:Couple of questions...

1) Where did you get the blue cooler pad at?

2) Which way was the fan blowing? :arrow:

Thanks,
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The cooler pad, any hardware store should have it. Not all areas are dry enough to stock swamp coolers. but if you build it you can pick up the pad on the way to the burn. they cost about $6.
The fan blows out of the bucket, or up in this case. It draws the air through the wet pad. The dryer vent on top is for directing the flow into a hose, then into your structure.


Thanks for the info!

I may give it a try if I can find the parts around here...
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Postby thesandman » Sat May 22, 2010 12:08 am

love the set up fig now may be if i can make a smaller one that can run off of a small solar panel but looking at the AMPS draw and all
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Postby yellowdog » Sat May 22, 2010 10:35 am

Here's another thread with some more responses and ideas
http://eplaya.burningman.com/viewtopic.php?t=32613&highlight=
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Postby illy dilly » Sat May 22, 2010 10:56 am

FIGJAM wrote:
chris2010 wrote:Couple of questions...

1) Where did you get the blue cooler pad at?

2) Which way was the fan blowing? :arrow:

Thanks,
Chris


The cooler pad, any hardware store should have it. Not all areas are dry enough to stock swamp coolers. but if you build it you can pick up the pad on the way to the burn. they cost about $6.
The fan blows out of the bucket, or up in this case. It draws the air through the wet pad. The dryer vent on top is for directing the flow into a hose, then into your structure.

Why couldn't you just set the whole thing inside? Your structure?
If you do put it outside your structure, would it work better to have an air intake on it that feeds from inside the structure?
I understand dry bulb/ wet bulb temperatures, how they work, and why swamp coolers are extremely effective in dry places. Just not sure about all the details on the swamp cooler works.
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Postby stack » Sat May 22, 2010 11:45 am

Yellowdog's link has some info that I posted re: the swamp cooler I made for our hexayurt last year. Worked great and was easy to build.

One thing I did different was to use a gravity feed from a higher tank to feed the pad. This requires a top tank, middle filter/fan section, and a lower tank with the pump and float switch.

The advantage is that it keeps your pump "on" time to a minimum, reducing electrical draw. I made a very rudimentary float switch to trigger the pump and used melted ice chest water to feed it. More details in the link above.
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Postby FIGJAM » Sat May 22, 2010 12:12 pm

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Postby FIGJAM » Sat May 22, 2010 12:18 pm

stack......i like your design, but i wanted to make something anyone could make, be completely self contained, and would fit in the trunk of a small car so all burners could bring one if they wish.
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Postby FIGJAM » Sat May 22, 2010 12:31 pm

That larger fan is a 12 volt Endless breese and pushes alot of air, so im still playing with it. The 02cool fans supposed to last 72 hours on 8 d cells just didnt cut it. I checked on the 02cool cause you could cut the adaptor cord and connect it direct to a deep cycle battery.
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Postby LeChatNoir » Sun May 23, 2010 8:31 am

This is a wonderful gift of a thread, FIGJAM. Like Snow, I’ve also got everything but the cloth, so this is my next project.
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Postby Rice » Sun May 23, 2010 9:16 am

Pure Genius!!!!

Having lived in the Canadian prairies my entire life, the design seems (at first) to be counter productive... Now that I have revisited the design about 30 times I see the potential! :) (The key word is _dry climate_)

I'll have to build one for the next time I drive down to the burn.

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Postby FIGJAM » Sun May 23, 2010 10:48 am

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Postby FIGJAM » Sun May 23, 2010 11:05 am

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Postby FIGJAM » Sun May 23, 2010 12:28 pm

That panel is 5 watts not 15 and if I understand correctly I need 6 watts...........lol
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Postby illy dilly » Tue May 25, 2010 9:59 am

I think with a little modification this pump would be perfect. Only along the ideas that you only plan to cool during the day (makes since to me). Also seems to draw enough power to also run a little fan like your talking about.
http://www.harborfreight.com/solar-powered-fountain-pump-66093.html
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Postby FIGJAM » Tue May 25, 2010 10:09 am

How the hell did I miss that. It may be perfect, though Im a little leary of hf for indurence.
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Postby illy dilly » Tue May 25, 2010 11:13 am

FIGJAM wrote:How the hell did I miss that. It may be perfect, though Im a little leary of hf for indurence.

Only reason I saw it is that it was in my weekly eMialer from Harbor Freight. And I thought it looked perfect, so I came and re-found this post just to add it. Now I'm stuck slacking on ePlaya!
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Postby FIGJAM » Tue May 25, 2010 8:06 pm

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Postby bm_cricket » Tue May 25, 2010 8:39 pm

The easiest way is with BBCode. Check that you don't have "Disable BBCode..." checked in the window where you write your message (just below the text box). If it's checked it won't work.

Next up you need a web host that lets you link from external websites. It won't make a difference for you but nobody else can see it.

When you want to post with BBCode (Really easy, you just copy/paste the URL, select it, and click the "Img" button in the line of icons above the text window where you write your message) it should look something like this:
[img]http://www.nanospeak.com/dome.jpg[/img]

Try pasting that exact line into your message and see if you can make an image show up.. if you can't then I bet the option on "Disable BBCode" is wrong. Just look for the check box and change it.
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Postby illy dilly » Tue May 25, 2010 8:52 pm

Wonder how many people are going to copy paste in the pic just to see what it is?
Cause I know I had to!
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Postby bm_cricket » Tue May 25, 2010 9:00 pm

[quote="illy dilly"]Wonder how many people are going to copy paste in the pic just to see what it is?
Cause I know I had to![/quote]

It's my project from last summer.

Now this on the other hand is from the year before.......

[img]http://www.nanospeak.com/hugebreasts.jpg[/img]
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Postby illy dilly » Tue May 25, 2010 9:14 pm

Yeah I saw you said something about it earlier. How did you get the hard drives to keep moving? I thought you had to have some sort of controller to tell the hard drive to go tell it found the mark you asked for?
Way cool idea.
I'm sure I'd go into panic mode as soon as I heard a hard drive start to grind and sound like it was quickly dying.
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Postby FIGJAM » Tue May 25, 2010 9:54 pm

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Postby bm_cricket » Tue May 25, 2010 10:18 pm

FIGJAM wrote:If you scroll up this page you will see what I mean. I know how to post the pics, I just dont know why they go away after a couple of days...........how can I make love stay...........lol...........none of my boxes are checked. Thanks for trying to help.

What site is hosting your pictures?



illy dilly wrote:Yeah I saw you said something about it earlier. How did you get the hard drives to keep moving? I thought you had to have some sort of controller to tell the hard drive to go tell it found the mark you asked for?
Way cool idea.
I'm sure I'd go into panic mode as soon as I heard a hard drive start to grind and sound like it was quickly dying.


If the read head can't read anything off the platter then it keeps retrying during the boot up. I just gave them power and let them spin.. (it takes 1 piece of dust to screw it up.. 1# of dust will do it really really well!)


This video is not mine but it's pretty cool..
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yISqCAnROh8[/youtube]
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Postby FIGJAM » Wed May 26, 2010 6:15 am

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Postby illy dilly » Wed May 26, 2010 6:59 am

Yeah it would. Or rather it would come up with some sort of a "can't find" or "picture no longer here"
I think about it kinda like AutoCAD, the link that you insert here is just a viewport of another web site. If the web site changes, the view here changes.
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Postby FIGJAM » Wed May 26, 2010 7:11 am

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