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Postby TD-2441 » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:50 pm

Seen as though I'm flying all the way from the UK to my first BM this year I thought it'd be cool if other UK Burners said hello on here so we can all get to know eachother and even meet up on the Playa?? I'm in Norwich and will be flying into Reno to meet my buddies from Oregon :D Can't wait!!!
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Postby Papa Thanatos » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:54 pm

Northen Irish myself, from Bangor, which is just outside Belfast.

No clue how i'm going to get to BM just yet. Thinking of flying to San Fran a few days before hand, then heading by train out to Nevada.

Since i'm heading solo i'm kind of hoping to fall in with a few people here and maybe get a group sorted out.
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Postby roamer » Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:06 am

I'm on the London/Kent borders and have been trekking to BM for the last three years and will be again this year too.

I've always camped with the Black Rock Burner Hostel (BRIBH). For the past two years a group of us set up Brit Camp within The Hostel and this year we're going to be a separate theme camp, but still camp next to The Hostel, hopefully as part of an International Village. We're always on the lookout for hardworking new campmates, whether from the UK or anywhere else.

There's plenty of activity and regular meet-ups within the London Burner network but not too much outside of this area.

We're having a tea party on Tue 26 Aug at 2:00pm if anyone wants to come along for some Pimms, tea cakes and I may attempt to bring Jaffa Cakes to the playa again this year.

Nice one TD, for starting this thread
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Postby DaddyMassive » Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:26 am

Camberwell, Saf London myself.

07 was mine & my GFs first year. Went with 4 others who'd been a different number of times themselves.

Next year we're bringing more friends. How many we bring is likely to determine what we do for a theme camp.

I/we'd would be interested in talking/meeting with other UK burners.
See what you've got planned & see if we can maybe help in some way closer to the time.
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Postby Lisa_M_Davies » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:06 pm

Hello, I'm Lisa.. I am from Bournemouth. This year will be my 3rd burn!!! I do not know of many burners along the south coast of England (Although I talked to many in Walmart in Reno just before the festival, and forgot/got distracted and did not meet up with them in Black Rock City!!) Just a little hello... if there is any UK burners meeting up, I'd like to join!
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Postby theCryptofishist » Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:37 pm

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Postby Live 3 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:52 am

Hi all

This is my first post and I am kinda in a rush but here goes

I wan't to go to burning man either this year or next, thing is I have never been abroad before :shock: , I don't even have a passport yet.

I have always been on the freeparty scene here in the uk, but the idea of flying to america and trying to hitch a lift from reno to BM is quite frightning.

What if I get stuck :?

How do all you guys go about it ? also whats the cost and what do you bring from the uk and what do you pick up out there ?
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Postby roamer » Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:38 am

Hiya Live 3 and welcome to The Burning Man experience.

You're not the first scared virgin by far but the only thing you should be concerned about is making sure you cram as much fun into your week in the desert.

Burners are quite a resourceful, helpful and generous bunch so you will have zero logistical nightmares with a little pre-planning.

As you're a virgin to the world as well as BM, I strongly recommend that your first time should be with a theme camp.

I can highly recommend two in particular *wink wink*

The Burner Hostel - I've camped with The Hostel for the past three years and it's main tenet is providing support for non-USians.

Brit Camp - this is my theme camp.



As for what to cram into your flight luggage and what to buy in Reno/Sparks, below is my summary that I've copied from elsewhere.

Many of us are limited by what we can fit into flight luggage. The remaining bulky/heavy supplies can be purchased in Sparks upon
arrival. There are also items on your shopping list that may not be available in your country, eg. Ziplock bags are unheard of in the UK except for flimsy things for freezing food in.

For myself there are generally two major shopping stops in Sparks: a hardware store and a supermarket. If you don't have a vehicle then just put an order in with somebody else that is doing one of these runs or take the trip with them.

My BM shopping list changes every year but some things that stand out are:

Hardware Store

Rebar - pre-cut 12" lengths suffice for most camping needs, 18" for keeping anything particularly sail-like from flying away. You don't need to make a point on the end to drive them into the playa. You can bend one end if you like but again, isn't necessary.
Chunky metal army surplus tent stakes also work just as well, but rebar is traditional and part of the fun. It's a good idea to get a few more than you anticipate needing, as they can always be given to others. Just don't get to the Playa with just the needle-like stakes supplied with the tent, as these are useless in the dusty ground. Don't forget something to cover the end of the stakes to prevent injury, or just drive them all the way into the ground. They are easy enough to retrieve afterwards but if you do follow the hammer to death method, be sure to remove them ALL while your tent is still in position during breakdown. Last year, I spent an age looking for that one tough bastard of a stake that refused to lift. I thought I'd leave that last one for later as it had exhausted me but when I returned to tackle it somebody had been kind enough to take my tent down for me (not knowing about the bastard stake) and so the long but successful search began.

A spare club hammer and pliers are always good to have in camp, to save everyone borrowing the same few tools all the time. If you borrow something be sure to return it as soon as you've finished with it and not lend it on to somebody else that doesn't know to whom it belongs. It's a bit irksome when you bring something to the playa and it's nowhere to be seen or heard of that one moment when you really need it.

It's always a good idea to opt for the tent and tarp method of tent shading. REFLECTIVE canvas can also provide a shade above a tent. One only needs a space of a few inches between the tent and the canvas to enable being in one's tent bearable after 10am.

Zip ties and Duct Tape have a myriad of uses. Make sure the ties don't become MOOP.

Supermarket

Tent
Fabric (for additional tent shade and decor)
Puncture repair kit and/or spare tyre and tubes
Bicycle lock - many a bike has been taken by mistake under the influence because they all look the same at night. Try and get one with a combination lock so you don't have to worry about losing the key.
Cooler (Hagey has several dozen communal ones for everyone - wait for the forum announcement for getting one of these closer to August)
Sun protection, plasters, lip balm, etc
Zip Lock bags
Toilet paper
Baby wipes - absolutely essential and refreshing alternative to a shower. Hagey swears by them.
Air mattress and pump
Pillow
New socks
Food: Remember some salty snacks to replace those lost through sweating. If you want something tastier than water for seven days bring some cordial, fruit juice; or Gatorade or a similar product. If you're not familiar with Gatorade, then buy a few flavours in smaller quantities while in Reno before committing to gallons of the stuff. Also, only bring enough fruit that you can consume within a couple of days or you'll end up with a gloopy, smelly mess. Canned fruit is good. Mesh bag for wet garbage (dry it!).
Alcohol (avoid glass bottles) - if your fave tipple only comes in a glass bottle then decant it into a plastic bottle before.
A small garbage container for your tent.
REMEMBER TO REMOVE ANY EXCESS PACKAGING BEFORE HEADING OUT TO THE PLAYA.

Essentials that will fit in your luggage

Something to mark stakes and ropes at night such as reflective ribbon, flashers etc (people run into them otherwise). Also provides a good opportunity to get creative.
Dust mask/scarf and goggles.
Head torch, blinkies, el-wire, glow sticks, any light that can be affixed to clothing. Bring a torch/lantern too, but keep it in camp or else it will just hamper your night time antics.
Photocopies of important documents to be kept at the bottom of your luggage in case you lose the originals.
Non-MOOPy gifts
Warm clothes (fleece and/or furry trench coat)
Warm hat
Small hand mirror (I like to have one that hangs in my tent)
Small portable ashtray /tin with lid (even if you don't smoke as it's good for trash while out and about)
Water bottle
A cup - for partaking of offered beverages and a method of attaching it to belt/clothing
Water mister
Costumes and Playawear
Extremely comfortable and worn-in footwear - you will be doing A LOT of walking.
Luggage tags with your name and the BRIBH camp address on to attach to everything portable - it just may come back. Once we know our address for 2008 I'll be making updated versions of (PDF auto download)my luggage tag for download.
Playa Calling Cards - useful for giving email addresses to all the wonderful freaks that you meet and want to stay in contact with.

Life on the Playa is harsh but can be over-hyped somewhat to scare virgins. The main thing to keep in mind is that once you're there you can't nip out to get something that you forgot. You can get the Empire-Gerlach bus to get some supplies but this would eat into valuable playtime and is an option I would never contemplate.

Everyone always brings too many supplies and you only have to ask if you have forgotten something. But remember one of the tenets of BM is radical self reliance. It's always better to be the one giving away essential supplies than the one having to ask for them.

Everyone is different (Thank God), and thus their needs are different too. There are plenty of BM supplies lists to be found online but adapt your list to your own requirements. My first aid kit comprises of three or so plasters and I walk around camp barefoot and have never been near a vinegar footbath. I've never owned a sleeping bag and use a good blanket instead as it's more versatile.

There is also the excellent Tribe, with a couple of notable tribes being, Burning Man Tips and 2008 Burning Man Virgins.

And just one last very important point, once again: REMEMBER TO REMOVE ANY EXCESS PACKAGING BEFORE HEADING OUT TO THE PLAYA.

As for the cost, the minimum is probably:

Flight - £450 - £650 depending on airline and time of booking. Flights to Reno are more convenient than SF but are a little more expensive and never direct.

Accommodation (few days before and after event) - £100 - £200 depending if you stay in one of the Reno casinos or a motel in Sparks.

Supplies - £100 - £250 depending on if you're sharing meals, buying a bike, tent, etc.

So it can be done on £800 at a push but £1100 is more likely.

If you can afford the time and the money to go this year, then do so, because if you leave it to next year you'll be kicking yourself for missing out on the previous year.
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Postby roamer » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:27 pm

Just requested that this topic (thread) be moved to a more appropriate place - Regionals and Events.
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Postby TD-2441 » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:57 pm

Handy info thre *prints out* :D Just wondered if any UK Burners were hanging out in Las Vegas for a few days before or after BM?
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Postby theCryptofishist » Fri Feb 22, 2008 7:28 pm

roamer wrote:here are also items on your shopping list that may not be available in your country, eg. Ziplock bags are unheard of in the UK except for flimsy things for freezing food in.
Pretty much have to laugh. The one thing my sister who lives near Manchester asked me to bring when I visited last year is those bags.
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Postby Dreamer121 » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:28 am

Hello i'm Northern Irish so i guess we're practically neighbours!

I'm a first timer and Black Rock City is my first stop on my year of travel! I'm flying to Vegas first and thinking of hiring a car in Reno.

Cant wait to meet other burners. New friendships and connections!

I've no plans with what to do for a couple of months after the burn, rather excited about where the flow of life is going to take me!

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Postby TD-2441 » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:34 am

I'm hoping to fly into Vegas a day or so before BM so I can have a look around, let me know if you want to meet up :D Anyone else coming to Vegas beforehand?
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Nevada Pre-BM Meet-up

Postby roamer » Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:37 am

I seem to remember somebody asking a similar thing, about meeting up with Burners In Vegas before heading to BM.

It was either in one of the Facebook or Tribe groups. I've had a look but can't find it again. if I come across it again or anything similar, then I'll let you know.
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Postby BitterDan » Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:10 am

Vegas is too far for us in the Bay Area, CA. I mean, that's a 10 hour drive to Vegas then an 8 hour drive to Gerlach then 3 hours to get through the gate. Too much driving for me. :D
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Postby nogganoodle » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:50 am

I'm here!

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Postby theCryptofishist » Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:19 pm

I don't. Although I bet some of the boys have something they want to hold against you!
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Re: Nevada Pre-BM Meet-up

Postby TD-2441 » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:52 am

roamer wrote:I seem to remember somebody asking a similar thing, about meeting up with Burners In Vegas before heading to BM.

It was either in one of the Facebook or Tribe groups. I've had a look but can't find it again. if I come across it again or anything similar, then I'll let you know.


Please do as I'm booking my flight and hotel soon, and if there is already a designated Burner Hotel in Vegas I need to know where it is :D

Can someone also tell me who is best to book internal flights from Vegas to Reno with?
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Postby Papa Thanatos » Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:08 am

I was thinking about Vegas first, but heading to San Francisco first instead. Flights were cheaper, and i'll get the bus from there to Reno I think, its not that expensive.
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Postby TD-2441 » Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:32 am

Well I've booked my flight - gutted because in the week I hesitated the fare went up £100 :evil: :evil: :evil: I've had to fly direct to and from Reno but I'm hoping to catch an internal flight across to Vegas for at least 24 hours. I leave heathrow on 22nd and will arrive in Reno on 23rd (I think, time differences!) so I'll have a few days to play with. So anyone meeting at Vegas in the following days from when I land, please let me know :D
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Postby Charlie_H » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:42 pm

Hey!

I'm flying over from Manchester with my best mate, we're over there for 3 weeks so we can just take our time getting there!

Thanks for all the info you posted way up there Roamer, it was really helpful!
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Postby TD-2441 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:15 pm

Are you coming to Vegas?
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Postby Charlie_H » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:25 am

We are going to Vegas but at the end of our trip, so wont be able to meet up with you guys there.

We're staying in Reno the night before BM :)
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Postby gyre » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:49 am

TD-2441 wrote:Well I've booked my flight - gutted because in the week I hesitated the fare went up £100 :evil: :evil: :evil: I've had to fly direct to and from Reno but I'm hoping to catch an internal flight across to Vegas for at least 24 hours. I leave heathrow on 22nd and will arrive in Reno on 23rd (I think, time differences!) so I'll have a few days to play with. So anyone meeting at Vegas in the following days from when I land, please let me know :D

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Postby Uncle Tom » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:42 pm

Im from Northern Ireland but living in Liverpool. Im flying into Vegas on the Friday and meeting up with some Canadian friends there and driving up to BM. Afterwards im heading off on my own to San Francisco for a week. It would be good to catch up with a few of you
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Postby TD-2441 » Thu May 01, 2008 5:10 am

If you're in Vegas on 23rd would be good to meet up 8)
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Postby red arrow » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:40 am

Hey

Four lads comin from dublin

landing in vegas on the 23rd, will be cool to catch up with some people from this side of the pond while in the USA

cant wait :D :D :D
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Postby TD-2441 » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:51 am

5 weeks to go AARGH!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :D :D :D :D :D I'm starting to make lists now of what I'm bringing - have found a proper bag for my power stilts, going to cable-tie them together then pack all my clothes and soft stuff round them to hopefully protect them :?

Still trying to choose a mid-price digi camcorder to bring, too much bloody choice and technical jargon for a girl :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Postby gyre » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:00 am

So helpless, I know...poor dear.

I would bring a cheap second hand myself.
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Postby TD-2441 » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:45 pm

I'd prefer to get a cheap one right now specially with my budget being stretched, but it would have a crap picture quality and finances depending/whether my friends are going again, I may not make BM 09 so I want a good video diary of my first Burn :(
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