PVC 101 HELP pls

[winebuff]

Question ole wise ones. I bought a bunch of pvc to reinforce a shade structure. My husband says I need pvc that doesnt bend so much, stiffer. It made me wonder if pvc that bends more is better with the wind or is firmer pvc better. Any suggestions on the grade to buy? Thx!

[FIGJAM]

He does'nt get a say cause he's not going.

What kind of shade?

Monkey hut needs flex.

[winebuff]

Ha ha, so true.

I am taking a 10 x 10 pop up (not the really cheap kind) and reinforcing it. Planning on tying it down with heavy duty guy ties. Going to zip tie pvc to the sides and the top part of it all around to make a heavier frame, using connectors for the top frame portion.

Bought the heavy duty rope and rebar and plan to use 8 guy ties at 4 corners. Where you tie the ends off on the ground I read that you tie off one rope then anchor it to another piece of rebar a foot from it to reinforce it. Does that make sense? Just not sure what type of pvc, bendable or stiff? Thx

He does'nt get a say cause he's not going.

What kind of shade?

Monkey hut needs flex.

[junglesmacks]

I personally don't feel like zip tying PVC piping to the side of a pop up shade is going to reinforce anything.. and all you'll be doing is wasting time and $$ for naught..

The main reason why those shelters fail is due to the sides flexing in and out as you know. I would spend more of an effort in securing it on all 4 corners and sides if needed to prevent flex. That will get you much farther than zip tied PVC pipes. That.. and correct placement of it behind some type of wind breaking structure if possible.

Last year, even with the winds.. out neighbors had a pop up with just the corners well secured.. and they fared just fine. I was sure that it was going to turn into a 10' square kite, but no..

[CaffeineGirl]

We attached three of the legs of our pop-up to T stakes by first wrapping the leg and stake with plastic wrap, then wrapping duct tape nice and tight over that. Stayed in place great, and no guys to trip over.

[winebuff]

hmmm, rethinking. Do u have a pic by chance?

We attached three of the legs of our pop-up to T stakes by first wrapping the leg and stake with plastic wrap, then wrapping duct tape nice and tight over that. Stayed in place great, and no guys to trip over.

[Rice]

Ha ha, so true.

I am taking a 10 x 10 pop up (not the really cheap kind) and reinforcing it. Planning on tying it down with heavy duty guy ties. Going to zip tie pvc to the sides and the top part of it all around to make a heavier frame, using connectors for the top frame portion.

Bought the heavy duty rope and rebar and plan to use 8 guy ties at 4 corners. Where you tie the ends off on the ground I read that you tie off one rope then anchor it to another piece of rebar a foot from it to reinforce it. Does that make sense? Just not sure what type of pvc, bendable or stiff? Thx

He does'nt get a say cause he's not going.

What kind of shade?

Monkey hut needs flex.

This last burn my GF and I used a 10x10 popup as shade. We pounded 6 foot long t-stakes (the kind they use on the trash fence) into the ground beside each of the legs. Then we used rope (parachute cord) to tie each of the shade legs to the t-stakes. Then we cut air vents into the roof of the popup so that the wind had some way of venting. Then we attached shade cloth to two of the sides of the popup (used zip ties, so that they would fail instead of killing our popup), but left a 1 foot opening between the ground and the shade cloth. This gave us shade for most of the day, allowed the wind to blow past, caused some sorta dust vortex that kept the dust down during a dust storm. We also anchored the sides of the popup with two lines for each leg to 1 foot pieces off reebar. I did put some zipties on the legs to hold the popup to the T-stakes until we had the wrapped rope attached. (Zipties, by themselves will fail due to repeated wind gusts)

Worked way better than I was expecting. Survived the serious winds that happened pre & post event as well as the less-strong winds during BM. (by strong, I mean over 60 MPH)

I consider it essential to put a tarp on the ground prior to setting the shade up. This gives you a place to walk that is not on the playa. Helps to reduce MOOP, easier on the bare toes, and a bit lest dusty. YMMV (Using standard, small, tent pegs into the ground at each grommet point...) I have used tarps large enough to cover the entire camp area, but found rain can cause issues. So I (wisely?) kept it small this year, just under the shade.

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We also had a Kodiak tent for that burn. The only dust in our tent was what we brought in on our shoes...



In looking through the few pictures I have from this burn, I realized I forgot to take pictures of our camp. I had to swipe a pic from a friend.

After the rain storm, thursday - post event, those t-stakes were a real PIA to remove. After the rain had a chance to dry, it turned the ground into cement. It took twice as long to remove the 4 t-stakes as it did to put everything else up.

That hammock allowed me to sleep during the heat of the hotest day. First burn ever that I was able to get sleep whenever I wanted

Trash Fence:

[winebuff]

You guys rock!!!! Definitely going to rethink this. I know it isnt rocket science but want to make sure I do it right. Stretch, thx for all the pics. Really appreciate it everyone