RedHeaven wrote:The temple burn could be more beautiful if people would obey, but it is still really really beautiful.
theCryptofishist wrote:RedHeaven wrote:The temple burn could be more beautiful if people would obey, but it is still really really beautiful.
It just sort of hit me in the (eyeroll) 1984 context, which made it all horrible...
"Freedom" dictates that we all accept that other people do not share our sense of sacred.
theCryptofishist wrote:RedHeaven wrote:The temple burn could be more beautiful if people would obey, but it is still really really beautiful.
It just sort of hit me in the (eyeroll) 1984 context, which made it all horrible...
"Freedom" dictates that we all accept that other people do not share our sense of sacred.
Bob wrote:I'm keeping my opinions about the Temple to myself for once.
wh..sh wrote:theCryptofishist wrote:RedHeaven wrote:The temple burn could be more beautiful if people would obey, but it is still really really beautiful.
It just sort of hit me in the (eyeroll) 1984 context, which made it all horrible...
"Freedom" dictates that we all accept that other people do not share our sense of sacred.
I have to agree with Fishy.
2011's temple is still very close to my heart. It had a different impact because it was a place where people brought all their insecurities. That place had all sort of messages ranging from goodbyes, to-be-left-behind wedding dresses, bras hung to toy spaceships, happy news, "miss you" messages, "love you" message, "hate you" messages, apologies, and what not! All kinds of people walked through - the ones who cried, the ones who smiled, the ones who took pictures, the ones who just wandered... just that was so beautiful!! It gave me a feeling that inspite of all the stuff people were going through, things were going to be ok. I really felt a genuine hope.
On the other hand, 2012's temple was more of a memorial. I am not sure when this transformation happened or why.
The vibe was just sad... there was no laughter, no smiles. If you weren't suffering, you sort of felt out of place.
Maybe too many expectations and rules on what a temple should be has had it's impact.
2011 is still my favorite temple because it brought all kinds of people together (The architecture and build on both were brilliant).
There, I said it!
I asked myself that for the first time after the Temple burn was over, and I didn't hesitate to answer back - if someone's behavior is enough to make you give up something which you love so much, then all those trips to the Black Rock Desert over the years have been for nothing.
There is that crazy young rebel somewhere hidden in my past that admires the woman that screamed "Fuck your Ave Maria". I just wish she hadn't.
Savannah wrote:This year's temple was very beautiful (and I liked the fact that there was courtyard seating) but like Wh..sh, last year's was my favorite--so far. Just an absolute stunner. It doesn't bother me at all that I won't fall in love with every Temple, every year. It makes the beloved years all the more special.
graidawg wrote:also Bacon is sacred delicious.
graidawg wrote:thanks i couldn't pin down why i didn't like this years temple at all. I felt no sense of wonder while i was there and you may have just nailed it for me
Simon of the Playa wrote:i went once....they shooed me out because i was smoking a cigarette.
i loudly told them to go fuck themselves and then proceeded to go on a Rant right outside the temple "grounds" about how fucking pretentious the whole scene was.
im an asshole that way.
Zhust wrote:I just kind of rolled my eyes at they playing of Freebird. And at the high-strung temple guardian in front of me screaming at some guy with a laser. I met someone who suggested that the lasers are a way for people to touch the monuments that they're not allowed to touch (e.g. only a few people get to touch the face of the man, or the peak of the temple.)
But what does bug me about Freebird is the same thing that bugs me about the church down the street's "bells". In both cases, it is the playback of a recording, not a performance by a human. I don't want to hear the best rendition yet recorded, I'd rather hear someone try to do jeir best and perform it. I don't have a good way of explaining it, but I find recordings to be soulless and hollow, even if there is no mathematical difference in the pressure waves reaching my ears. It's the difference between amplified live music and the same music recorded and played back. It's not immediate, present, alive.
So with Freebird, I don't mind the decision of someone to play it as much as the playback caused us to attempt to play back whatever memories and feelings we had experienced before. And we can't shut our ears, so (for me at least) such an experience is inexorable. I was no longer experiencing the burn of the Temple of Juno, I was experiencing all the times I ever heard Freebird ... or maybe a mix of both at the same time. It's mentally jarring and disruptive to a delicate meditative state of presence.
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