Finxiekins wrote:My husband and I have decided to bring a tent, a 7-8 person tent in particular. My questions are these:
*What are good ways to keep dust out of the tent?
*What are good ways to keep the tent cool in the heat of the day, and warm in the cold of the night?
*Rebar is obviously a great way to keep the tent from blowing away in the middle of a storm, but what are other ways to keep the tent from blowing away in the storms?
*Without electricty, what are good ways to light/make the tent's presence known in order to keep others from wandering in?
*What is the best way to add a shade-structure onto a tent?
*What is the best way to clean a tent after a visit to the playa?
Thanks for your consideration, and I'm sure that there are plenty of threads related to this, but I want to be as specific to our tent as possible. We're borrowing it from family who are well aware of the damage it may receive - So we want to pleasantly surprise them by bringing it back in excellent condition.
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Bob wrote:Might help to mention whether you've already read the first-timer's pages on the main Burning Man website, and searched the eplaya for relevant threads.
Kodiak, Springbar or similar family type tents are much more bombproof than typical shopping mall tents, and support draping shade cloth directly on top. Use the steel rod stakes provided -- actually, bring twice as many and put two in X-wise in place of one. Rebar is stupid for what most people try to do with it -- better in almost all cases are long steel rod pegs or V-shaped military surplus aluminum stakes (9" or 12") pounded flush with the ground surface. Any tent can be made to work, though.
Buy the tent, set it up, set up your kitchen & lounge furnishings, *then* figure out how big a shade awning you want.
I use a 3/4" EMT conduit awning structure (like this) 7 ft tall with canvas painter's dropcloths sloping off the sides and nylon camping tarps on top.
Read the first-timer's pages on the main Burning Man website, and search the eplaya for relevant threads.
Did I mention reading the first-timer's pages on the main Burning Man website, and searching the eplaya for relevant threads?
Learn your knots.
Read my sigline.
Savannah wrote: I hope the "tone" will not get to you too much
Finxiekins wrote:My husband and I have decided to bring a tent, a 7-8 person tent in particular. My questions are these:
*What are good ways to keep dust out of the tent?
*What are good ways to keep the tent cool in the heat of the day, and warm in the cold of the night?
*Rebar is obviously a great way to keep the tent from blowing away in the middle of a storm, but what are other ways to keep the tent from blowing away in the storms?
*Without electricty, what are good ways to light/make the tent's presence known in order to keep others from wandering in?
*What is the best way to add a shade-structure onto a tent?
*What is the best way to clean a tent after a visit to the playa?
Thanks for your consideration, and I'm sure that there are plenty of threads related to this, but I want to be as specific to our tent as possible. We're borrowing it from family who are well aware of the damage it may receive - So we want to pleasantly surprise them by bringing it back in excellent condition.
Bob wrote:Might help to mention whether you've already read the first-timer's pages on the main Burning Man website, and searched the eplaya for relevant threads.
Kodiak, Springbar or similar family type tents are much more bombproof than typical shopping mall tents, and support draping shade cloth directly on top. Use the steel rod stakes provided -- actually, bring twice as many and put two in X-wise in place of one. Rebar is stupid for what most people try to do with it -- better in almost all cases are long steel rod pegs or V-shaped military surplus aluminum stakes (9" or 12") pounded flush with the ground surface. Any tent can be made to work, though.
Buy the tent, set it up, set up your kitchen & lounge furnishings, *then* figure out how big a shade awning you want.
I use a 3/4" EMT conduit awning structure (like this) 7 ft tall with canvas painter's dropcloths sloping off the sides and nylon camping tarps on top.
Read the first-timer's pages on the main Burning Man website, and search the eplaya for relevant threads.
Did I mention reading the first-timer's pages on the main Burning Man website, and searching the eplaya for relevant threads?
Learn your knots.
Read my sigline.
Savannah wrote:It was not actually apparent from your original post how much reading you may have done on the subject, Finxiekins. (You did ask many simple questions that have been answered at length before.)
Bob and the others have given you a really nice amount of excellent advice with great patience. I hope the "tone" will not get to you too much, because it does come out when a person's amount of homework on a subject is anything less than clear.
Bob wrote:Might help to mention whether you've already read the first-timer's pages on the main Burning Man website, and searched the eplaya for relevant threads.
Kodiak, Springbar or similar family type tents are much more bombproof than typical shopping mall tents, and support draping shade cloth directly on top. Use the steel rod stakes provided -- actually, bring twice as many and put two in X-wise in place of one. Rebar is stupid for what most people try to do with it -- better in almost all cases are long steel rod pegs or V-shaped military surplus aluminum stakes (9" or 12") pounded flush with the ground surface. Any tent can be made to work, though.
Buy the tent, set it up, set up your kitchen & lounge furnishings, *then* figure out how big a shade awning you want.
I use a 3/4" EMT conduit awning structure (like this) 7 ft tall with canvas painter's dropcloths sloping off the sides and nylon camping tarps on top.
Read the first-timer's pages on the main Burning Man website, and search the eplaya for relevant threads.
melaniejane wrote:You can't do much (without setting up a swamp cooler) for the heat of the day

DoctorIknow wrote:Bottom line is that for the infinite possibilities for your infrastructure, there are two concerns which SHOULD be number one for ANY tent situation:
1- Shade over the top and on three sides. Hopefully, at least 8' of overhead shade in front of your entrance. Without shade on sides, you will bake either in the morning or anytime except sun overhead. Three sides. Do not compromise.
2- Make the tent as impervious to dust as possible.
It is close to impossible to find a "cheap" family (ie: large) tent that can seal up completely. The industry has gone insane with putting mesh wherever it can, dependent, for normal camping, on a rain fly, which won't stop any dust on the playa. If you have money for the canvas tents, great, but having used a big cheapo Coleman WeatherMaster for 11 burns, it is likely that cheap tents, well staked, will not blow apart in the occasional huge winds.
Many suggestions in eplaya for closing up mesh.
However, if you choose velcro, do not get the "peel off the tape to expose glue" kind. And for sure you don't want to sew on velcro.
Only one Velcro for tents: Fusion Velcro. It is very strong and the Velcro's "hooks and eyes" are small enough that they do not get saturated with playa dust, therefore, the closure remains tight thru the week.

Finxiekins wrote:Would a tarp fixed tightly over the tent help with dust at all? I see a lot of things about fleece blankets, etc. -
Finxiekins wrote:Work tends to grate on my nerves and make me a bit more edgy than normal.
Trishntek wrote:It's kind of like going stream fishing and expecting to keep your feet dry
DoctorIknow wrote:Finxiekins wrote:Would a tarp fixed tightly over the tent help with dust at all? I see a lot of things about fleece blankets, etc. -
Quick answer: Absolutely not. If you are going to use any kind of tarp over your tent, it must have air between it and the tent.
Suggestion: Think of your tent as never being used for any other camping trip. The expense lost in getting a new default world tent is NOTHING compared to having a dust free/shaded tent on the playa.
I toyed with the idea of getting a viscous paint and just painting the damn mesh. Haven't seen any threads concerning mesh closure here where that's been done.

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