BLM

[Colonel Monk]

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The BLM has no say about the NDOT..

All the high desert HWY's get a beating over the weather year..
I think we are feeding on a red herring..
By the time the traffic gets to Gerlach some has already turned north.
Maybe we should stop with this knee jerk, and think it through. What is the real problem?

Unjon's onto something...

Previous to last year's event there was quite a bit of road construction happening in the Empire area, they DO have to do maintenance just like anywhere else. It's hotter than Hades in the summer and exactly the opposite in the winter, freezing cold! Extremes are difficult on roadways.... They probably barely have the budget to keep the road safe let alone widen it.

Anyway, knee jerk, what's really wrong?

The Popularity. Supply/Demand, Guns/Butter, Liquor/Beer.... Why is it so popular?

Because it's awesome. Seems the population already grew pretty quickly just by world of mouth over the years - but add to that these viral Dr Seuss videos and all? Am I the only person that thinks this awareness might ruin Burning Man?

Keep your traps shut. Even bringing one friend will lead to a population explosion - do you really need to post your pictures and videos online to show everyone how cool you are?

I'm guilty, I brought one person in nearly a decade, so I'm as guilty as anyone, but this video mass marketing bullshit has got to stop.

[Herring]

The first rule of Burning Man is You do NOT talk about Burnig Man
The second rule of Burning Man is do NOT talk about Burning Man!

[hotmess]

And the 3rd rule of Burning Man . . . . YOU DON"T TALK ABOUT BURNING MAN!

[Colonel Monk]

The first rule of Burning Man is You do NOT talk about Burnig Man
The second rule of Burning Man is do NOT talk about Burning Man!

Yes!

My friend who wouldn't talk about it is also the one that brought me the first time. But he did not sell me on it, far from it.

My friend I brought, helped me build my MV - he had already put in several dozen hours of participation before he ever set foot in BRC, so I knew he was OK.

But yeah, if it's not obvious already, shut the f*ck up already! No more stupid videos, no matter how cute!

Ahhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Let me see your WAR FACE!

[unjonharley]

The first rule of Burning Man is You do NOT talk about Burnig Man
The second rule of Burning Man is do NOT talk about Burning Man!

My campmate got to old to do BM. So I'm "down" by one.

Now doing a daily dust dances.. A nice windy/dusty Burning Man will sort out the wennies...

[hotmess]

I'm with you on the dust dance. I wIll be doing a jig jig jig every night till August.

[theCryptofishist]

And the fourth rule of burningman is: Lock the Barn Door After the Horse Escapes.

[lemur]

no sense in letting that stinky barn smell up the place if there arent any horses in it

[Elliot]

Simple: BM is not a football match of fixed duration. It is in the nature of BM that the bigger it gets, the longer it should last. Open the gate a week earlier and the gate backup disappears. Burn the Man and the Temple a couple days earlier and the exodus backup disappears. Keep extending as demand increases. More tickets sold pays for more JOTS needed (and other costs).

Sure, there would be bugs to sort out. United Site Services might not have enough JOTS and enough trucks and crews to service them. So BM would buy their own and store on the ranch. (Bolt 20 JOTS to a skid and one man can move 20 at a time with a winch truck.) All solvable.

All a matter of spreading the traffic out over more days.

[urvile]

The first rule of Burning Man is You do NOT talk about Burnig Man
The second rule of Burning Man is do NOT talk about Burning Man!

This.

For years I have been watching fb posts, youtube videos, etc., and thinking to myself, "STFU! BE QUIET!"

When you find a gold mine, you don't go and tell everyone where it is. Same way you don't tell people about your favorite hunting/fishing spot. Or even camping spot.

[Savannah]

Thank you. Put down the pitchforks, you rabble.

Get out of my head!

[LegendZero]

Somewhere on ePlaya someone posted the idea of staggered entry and exit, with something (a lottery?) to determine which day you can first enter (Saturday or Sunday). So 1/2 the gate load on Saturday and 1/2 on Sunday. Same for exodus, only: voluntary? Monday & Tuesday?
Object is to cut the peak load of the highways and all the towns along the way down to half?
Easier drive, and reduced risk of accidents?

Would it work?

What would make it work?

That was me, and I was told it was unfeasible/ that arrival wasnt the problem. In the thread though somone suggested instead of a lottery for arrival having people sign up for a time and pay an extra fee if they arrive outside that window. It was also suggested to do the same thing about exodus.

Here is the link http://eplaya.burningman.com/viewtopic.php?f=290&t=54119

[Wrath]

If Burning Man was organized into a formally recognized religion, would the government then have such a say in who can and can't go?

[lucky420]

If it is held on BLM property they would have a say in how MANY people were allowed to be there.

[Stickygreen]

before anyone gets all upset a the BLM, know who and what they are.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/blm/pls96/part1.html

BLM's mandate under the Federal Land Policy and Management Act of 1976 (FLPMA) is to manage the public lands for multiple use, while protecting the long-term health of the land.

http://www.access.gpo.gov/blm/pls96/history.html

http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Land_Management

[moonrise]

The first rule of Burning Man is You do NOT talk about Burnig Man
The second rule of Burning Man is do NOT talk about Burning Man!

This.

For years I have been watching fb posts, youtube videos, etc., and thinking to myself, "STFU! BE QUIET!"

When you find a gold mine, you don't go and tell everyone where it is. Same way you don't tell people about your favorite hunting/fishing spot. Or even camping spot.

IIRC the Reno Gazette Journal (yep, just a local paper) has placed photo(s) and a story on the FRONT page, every year after the burn, for as long as I can recall. I think the front page photo of the Big Blue Head was one of the most eye catching. And there was the year the BLM (or was it the LLC?) allowed camps to enter early. Again the RGJ did front page stories letting retailers et al know 1000's of Burners would be arriving earlier every year.

[quadraspleen]

here we go, another self-defeating argument..

So, what you're saying is: don't tell anyone about BM? What, no-one? Oh...Ok. Good job someone didn't suggest that as a "remedy" before someone told US!

I totally agree about the videos and shit..they are very tacky and totally unecessary. Especially the shit ones with ppl singing songs - ffs STOP with the song videos!..

But - Please don't tell me, before YOU went to BM first, that you didn't want to see peoples photographs and hear their amazing shit? Some of the photographs I've seen from the Playa are among the most beautiful ever - of the most beautiful shit ever...That stuff is on the Internet; not just on Facebook and YouTube...you can't STOP people seeing it even if you wanted to!..

Probably, It's one of the reasons why a lot of us are there now. That and because somebody TOLD us about BM...Should we leave?..

jake out

[quadraspleen]

I like the religion thing..

L. Ron Harvey - leader of the debaclists - their key tenet is to deny they really exist at all..It's all a figment of your imagination!