There are two areas which I think could be improved:
1. Eliminate tiered-prices. It's not needed any more and it only favors those who can afford more by automatically entering them in multiple drawings.
2. Do not call out reasoned grievances as "whining" or do the "it hasn't happened yet so why worry about it" thing.
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1. reasonable, but I think many people would be upset. I don't see how it causes a negative effect to the lottery itself, it just causes some confusion to the people who enter into the lottery.
2. Make sure those "reasoned grievances" don't sound like whining. For instance, the sentence you wrote after number 2 up there sounds a LOT like whining to me. The Org isn't coming down to your house to call these posts whining, it's free willed members of our community. So, if the annoying posts stop, the responses of "you're already sure it's failed and it hasn't happened yet" will stop.
karma_cat wrote:Trilobyte's been picking on everyone with a suggestion for improvement or even the mention of a thought that things could be done better. All I did was point that out.
Trilo has been responding more than others because he's on the board more than others, but since it seems to you like he's the only one doing it, I'll try to do it myself more often. To be honest he's a lot nicer than I want to be when I see people getting all riled up about how the sky is falling before the lottery has even happened.
IF I was in Trilo's shoes I'd be tempted to say things like:
IfJesterWasTrilo wrote:"You're right, all the people involved in designing this system get the standard 10 free tickets (so we and ours don't have to fret about going) and so we designed a system to allow for scalpers to get their hands on as many tickets as possible. This way, when scalpers are selling tickets for $1,000 each, we can easily sell our extra tickets for $750 each without people checking in to who we are. Each year we are going to raise the ticket prices by 30% of the difference between the average scalped price and the highest tier. IT'S A MONEY GRAB! You all figured us out. Now shut the fuck up and take what you're given. You've been a naughty naughty school boy, and deserve a spanking."
IfJesterWasTrilo wrote:"Your ideas are without flaw and have never been thought of before. Also, they are going to be so easy to implement. I'm going to run over to Larry's office and stop this stupid lottery to put your ideas into place. It's simple, we kill the batman... I mean, we sell the tickets individually, print names on them, hire private security to run the gate with scanners and body cavity checks, widen 447, lie to the BLM about how many people there are, run the event for an extra week, and sell all the friggin' tickets people in the community want. The plus side is we can sell tickets at the gate this way, and no one will have to buy in advance. The line won't be that long, and there won't be that much traffic, we'll just have a couple of extra portos out there."
IfJesterWasTrilo wrote:"It's so very helpful when people with a wildly limited understanding of the process and the scale of the issues involved come in with half baked ideas. Because if there's one thing that Burning Man needs, it's more people offering suggestions that haven't been thought out all the way. The only way to solve the scarcity problem is to get three stoned burners in a room, and tell them to brainstorm a solution for 15 minutes. Then they can do awesome things like come up with ideas that have already been examined for a week by a room full of people who actually do the ticketing, and suggest those. Hey, maybe it would be really easy to just write names on the tickets. I can't think of any reason that wouldn't work, and I don't think that the Org has thought of this idea. I should go tell them right now!
I try to apply this sort of helpful thinking to all sorts of things on the playa. It's really nice when you go up to someone who built a 45 foot tall sculpture and say, 'Hey, this would be a lot cooler if you had an observation tower on the top.' Or 'you should have made her eyes green. I like green.'
I know the people at Gayte LOVE it when I drive up to the gate and say 'You guys should have a few lanes on the side for people like me that don't really need to be searched. It would be like an express lane, and take much less time. Also, you should have another entrance on the other side of the playa.'
I have helped out DPW by saying, 'You guys are all wearing black, and it's hard to see you at night. You should wear these disposable glow in the dark necklaces!'
I almost got a special award from the Rangers once. I told them, 'Instead of being dicks who are only concerned with telling people what they can't do, you guys should be nicer. You have literally the easiest job on the playa, all you do is walk around with radios and hang out in other camps shade. Also, there's no reason we shouldn't be allowed to do anything we want. You know, there are no rules at Burning Man.'
Really, all good innovation has always come from people who aren't involved in the process they are trying to change."
IfJesterWasTrilo wrote:If you whine this much pre-event, you must be the worst person imaginable on Playa. I hope you don't get a ticket.
Yeah, that last one was a bit rude, but he can always just wait a little while and say
karma_cat wrote:I feel bad for getting angry at Trilobyte ... but I've been watching people get smacked down for months and I was getting very frusterated.
Trilo doesn't say any of these things. He says
trilobyte wrote:Your lengthy post makes a number of inaccurate assumptions, starting with the subject line. The lottery has not failed. 40,000 tickets will be awarded next week.
I can see how you're a very special person, a pony that sparkles maybe. I will send Trilo a telegram and tell him that he can't be rushed with his responses to you. He should refrain from quick posts, because those might seem rude. If he does something that might seem rude, the only reasonable response is going to be for you to tell him off. Because the only way anyone to keep a conversation on the internet civil is to quickly put people in their place with witty retorts and ad hominen attacks.
These tactics are especially effective when they are used on someone who donates their time. With any luck, enough people will tell our Mods to fuck off, and then we'll have a glorious and free board! Full of spam and misplaced posts. I guess the misplaced posts wouldn't really bother anyone with a shiny new solution to any kind of ticketing problems, since they clearly don't bother searching the board to count how many times their brand new idea has already been discussed.
Hey, wait. What if we just print everyone's name on the ticket! That would solve everything! I'm going to go into "Greeters Station" and put a post in there about it, so everyone can see it!TL:DR - It's very helpful when people who don't get off their ass to donate their time to solve a problem stand on the sidelines and criticize to those who do.
The Bruce wrote:The playa is fucking huge I don't understand the need to limit ticket sales. If tickets don't sell out there is no benefit to scalpers.
OMG! That's the solution! Let's go tell Larry to not limit the number of ticket sales!
THANK YOU KIND CITIZEN, YOU HAVE SAVED US ALL!