What's Your Fallback?

[late]

A) it would be hilarious if a huge group of burners went, well, anywhere and semi took it over. Originally I was going to mention a specific place, but every one I can think of would be it's own hilarious.

B) even burning man started small, just start another event?

[illy dilly]

but I've got family down in So. Calif., so we'll leave that one for Illy and others coming from that direction.

I don't know, moon.
You make Channel Islands sound pretty damned tempting!
Shit, I might just have to take a year off Burning Man.

[delle]

I'm thinking maybe I'd have enough for a facelift.

Then I could just go to the bathroom and spend 3 weeks critically acclaiming myself in the mirror.

(with dubstep on the boombox and a tepid mug of vodka and tang)

[Ugly Dougly]

but I've got family down in So. Calif., so we'll leave that one for Illy and others coming from that direction.

I don't know, moon.
You make Channel Islands sound pretty damned tempting!
Shit, I might just have to take a year off Burning Man.

Catalina is wonderful, some childhood memories.

[moonrise]

Channel Islands Park/Preserve, are (mostly) the same as they were 400 years ago, before the white man arrived & screwed the land up.

My freinds from highschool get into hard core scuba diving out there, they seek out sharks and what not. Sometimes they sailboat there, and camp out on the secluded beaches. I just do the State Park boat & try to get into the water and snorkel, usually. The Channel Islands Harbour is only one hour from L.A!!


Yea, UD... Catalina, a place lost in time. Busier than the other islands, but still worth it. (maybe a West Coast Nantucket )
A freind blasts out to Catalina in a Turbo Charged Cigarette boat, scary, from what I hear. That Cigarette boat used to be in Tahoe, wow, what a ride!! Ultra fast,
I miss it...we call that shit "throttle therapy"... Them days are loooong gone. Here's to sail, swim, raft & float power! (or maybe rent a jet ski once a month)

[theCryptofishist]

I'm doing a drive out to SLC then Aspen in late January. How are the national parks in utah that time of year? Are you able to see much if it's freezing/snowing? Zion, Bryce, Capitol Reef, and Arches are on our list of places to stop/stay overnight.

Sorry, I started this thread and that's not drift.

[mudpuppy000]

Channel Islands Park/Preserve, are (mostly) the same as they were 400 years ago, before the white man arrived & screwed the land up.

My freinds from highschool get into hard core scuba diving out there, they seek out sharks and what not. Sometimes they sailboat there, and camp out on the secluded beaches. I just do the State Park boat & try to get into the water and snorkel, usually. The Channel Islands Harbour is only one hour from L.A!!


Yea, UD... Catalina, a place lost in time. Busier than the other islands, but still worth it. (maybe a West Coast Nantucket )
A freind blasts out to Catalina in a Turbo Charged Cigarette boat, scary, from what I hear. That Cigarette boat used to be in Tahoe, wow, what a ride!! Ultra fast,
I miss it...we call that shit "throttle therapy"... Them days are loooong gone. Here's to sail, swim, raft & float power! (or maybe rent a jet ski once a month)

Yeah, channel islands are awesome. I'd like to do an overnight trip out to some of the islands. So far I've just been to Anacapa and Santa Cruz. Anacapa is spectacular but it's pretty small and a seagull rookery so if you don't mind camping with 1million seagulls it'd be cool. Santa Cruz is gigantic, you could spend many days there and not hike the whole thing.

[mudpuppy000]

I'm doing a drive out to SLC then Aspen in late January. How are the national parks in utah that time of year? Are you able to see much if it's freezing/snowing? Zion, Bryce, Capitol Reef, and Arches are on our list of places to stop/stay overnight.

Sorry, I started this thread and that's not drift.

Well, I guess it's technically off topic since I'm going to do that whether I get BM tickets or not.

[theCryptofishist]

I'm topically loose, I guess. And I also want to get people dreaming about other things than their lottery freakout. So if your post give other people ideas, that conforms to my secret agenda.

[tamarakay]

I'm liking the whole utah thing. The only problem will be getting Ken to actually STOP THE TRUCK even if we don't go X amount of miles that day. I liked the wandering part of the trip last year (when I could force him to stop lol).

[theCryptofishist]

Maybe you bring one of those kitchen timers, the modern ones with more than an hour one them, and set it for, say 2 and a half hours and if you haven't stopped in that time you have to stop at the next point. So, he still has to stop, but he might end up in some total dump. Once you've stopped and spent at least 20 minutes some place you can reset the time for another tow and a half.

[tamarakay]

A most excellent idea Fishy. Thank you!

[theCryptofishist]

You're welcome.

[mudpuppy000]

I volunteered at this event a few weeks ago, it was really fun. Sort of a high concept, low intensity burning man. You'd drive all over the valley outside joshua tree looking for art installations. Got to go swimming in a giant wooden swimming pool out in the middle of nowhere. I think most of the stuff is up all year round but you'll likely be the only people out there.

http://www.highdeserttestsites.com/hdts

[unjonharley]

I'm thinking a multi regional.. Make some little burg famous.. Some place like Wagon Or. It's up on the high desert north of the Steins mt range. Wa. Id. Nv. Or. and Ca . about 600 from SF.

[AntiM]

I'm doing a drive out to SLC then Aspen in late January. How are the national parks in utah that time of year? Are you able to see much if it's freezing/snowing? Zion, Bryce, Capitol Reef, and Arches are on our list of places to stop/stay overnight.

Sorry, I started this thread and that's not drift.

Well, I guess it's technically off topic since I'm going to do that whether I get BM tickets or not.

It can be devastatingly beautiful in the snow, White on red rock. Many of the trails and back roads are closed though, very treacherous in winter conditions. Bryce in the snow is amazing, but frigid. Campgrounds are all closed, so motels are a must (Moab is incredibly overpriced anymore). Ages ago, we spent Christmas Eve sleeping in the car in Kodachrome Basin, my brother's old Chevy Nova. We'd had it on graded dirt roads, even through a river. Just carry your emergency supplies and you're good to go. There might not be any snow at all.

You do know the parks are a decent drive south of SLC? Add a couple days for sure to explore.

[Gilded_Phoenix]

I've actually got an epic plan for this summer. Including )'( would just make it more epic.
I'm going to leave the dreary weather of Columbus OH on my birthday, Aug 21, and embark on the most epic road trip ever. At this point the plan is:
Leave Columbus -> St. Louis Arch -> Mt. Rushmore -> Salt Lake City -> Reno(I want to pick someone up for carpool since I've had that supreme kindness done for me in the past) -> Redwood Forests of California -> LA to visit friends -> Los Vegas -> Hoover Dam -> Valley of Fire State Park -> Grand Canyon -> Phoenix, AZ.
This epic trip will leave me in Phoenix to find my way. I'm not returning to Ohio this year because winter is cold. I think moving to Phoenix by way of Burning Man is going to be the most Epic journey of my life and I'm looking forward to it. Even if )'( is not included in this trip, it'll be one of the best things I've ever done. I just know it.

[maryanimal]

FoxFire seems to put on a good get together for folks at his place!! Lot's of fire, guns, and good times! tamarakay, we could still dye scarfs and things there! We should see what he thinks!! PLUS we can meet his Sweetpea!

[mudpuppy000]

It can be devastatingly beautiful in the snow, White on red rock. Many of the trails and back roads are closed though, very treacherous in winter conditions. Bryce in the snow is amazing, but frigid. Campgrounds are all closed, so motels are a must (Moab is incredibly overpriced anymore). Ages ago, we spent Christmas Eve sleeping in the car in Kodachrome Basin, my brother's old Chevy Nova. We'd had it on graded dirt roads, even through a river. Just carry your emergency supplies and you're good to go. There might not be any snow at all.

You do know the parks are a decent drive south of SLC? Add a couple days for sure to explore.

Thanks AntiM! Yeah, we're headed up from Los Angeles, so we'd do 2-3 parks on the way up and one or two on the way from SLC to Aspen. I've had my fill of snow camping, even when sleeping in my truck. Motels/lodges are a must! Maybe I can borrow some snowshoes in case there's a lot of snow when we get there. Any other must see places in Utah??

[moonrise]

gilded phoenix, redwoods will be a huge detour unless you go to some in the sf bay area, or marin county maybe? The best I've found over the years were virgin uncut preserves, further North of the city. Rockefeller along the Eel River, there are 22 miles of trails wending along the River with some camping spots every so often for tenting it. The sunlight pours in just over the river, creating 1000's of shades of phosphorescent greens to darker greens deeper in the background... & McGrath State Park, known for the tall tall ferns. If you go wandering into the deep forest, be sure to be careful not to get lost (stay sobber-ish) and bring bug spray (helicopter sized mosquitoes) Both are off hwy 101, near Redway, Calif.

maryanimal, did Foxfur change his name to FoxFire? Might as well...

mud you get around don't you? Aspen and parks coming and going...don't you ever get tired? There's a great Holiday Inn in dt SLC, they have a glassed in indoor swimming pool, traffic whizzing by as you' float and swim...we stayed there and made day trips up to ski at the ski areas. On the way to the ski hills, there used to be a French restaurant named Le Q?? (I forget the spelling/name) it's all white, inside and out, nice grounds with a bajillion white peacocks (I asked, no they don't have them on the menu) it may be still be in operation.

[AntiM]

It can be devastatingly beautiful in the snow, White on red rock. Many of the trails and back roads are closed though, very treacherous in winter conditions. Bryce in the snow is amazing, but frigid. Campgrounds are all closed, so motels are a must (Moab is incredibly overpriced anymore). Ages ago, we spent Christmas Eve sleeping in the car in Kodachrome Basin, my brother's old Chevy Nova. We'd had it on graded dirt roads, even through a river. Just carry your emergency supplies and you're good to go. There might not be any snow at all.

You do know the parks are a decent drive south of SLC? Add a couple days for sure to explore.

Thanks AntiM! Yeah, we're headed up from Los Angeles, so we'd do 2-3 parks on the way up and one or two on the way from SLC to Aspen. I've had my fill of snow camping, even when sleeping in my truck. Motels/lodges are a must! Maybe I can borrow some snowshoes in case there's a lot of snow when we get there. Any other must see places in Utah??

Goblin Valley and Valley of the Gods are out of your way. Ruby Inn outside of Bryce is nice. Hole in the Rock is a fun tourist detour, and should be on your route if you're zig-zagging over to Arches. Google Utah state parks, I like Snow Canyon outside of St. George. Valley of Fire in NV, north of Las Vegas, beyond the Moapa Casino, hike in to find the petroglyphs.

[mudpuppy000]

mud you get around don't you? Aspen and parks coming and going...don't you ever get tired? There's a great Holiday Inn in dt SLC, they have a glassed in indoor swimming pool, traffic whizzing by as you' float and swim...we stayed there and made day trips up to ski at the ski areas. On the way to the ski hills, there used to be a French restaurant named Le Q?? (I forget the spelling/name) it's all white, inside and out, nice grounds with a bajillion white peacocks (I asked, no they don't have them on the menu) it may be still be in operation.

Hehe, yeah, I decided this summer I need to see more of the west. Did a trip to Mesa Verde in Colorado on 4th of July weekend. Was amazing but lots of driving. I think we're going to be staying with my girlfriends relatives in SLC but could use some lodging recommendations elsewhere. What are some good ski areas there? Definitely going to bring my snowboard for this trip!

Goblin Valley and Valley of the Gods are out of your way. Ruby Inn outside of Bryce is nice. Hole in the Rock is a fun tourist detour, and should be on your route if you're zig-zagging over to Arches. Google Utah state parks, I like Snow Canyon outside of St. George. Valley of Fire in NV, north of Las Vegas, beyond the Moapa Casino, hike in to find the petroglyphs.

I drove past Valley of the Gods this summer, it was stunning even from the highway. I wish I had more time to spend there, looks like I missed out! I'll have to check out some of those other places you recommended too. Looks like our itinerary is getting pretty packed.

[moonrise]

mudpuppy, I don't ski/board any more (too hard on my back) the trips to Utah for skiing/boarding were over 12 years ago. I think Alta and Snowbird have joined, using one of those names. There's also Deer Park (too ritzy, costly) all of them are in the same canyon. Have fun, maybe you'll get a big powder storm and be avalanced in (the road becomes blocked, but the lifts usually stay running) it keeps it less crowded, hence, more virgin snow powder runs to be had!! (I'm jealous)
Back to snorkeling for me...I can manage that.

[Ugly Dougly]

Maybe Harbin.
Harbin, California or th eone in China, either way.
Or both.

MR I had the pleasure of volunteering at an archaeological expedition on San Clemente. How weird it was to enjoy the sunny, balmy S Cal weather with almost no people or civilization around!

[AntiM]

Are there good ski places? That would be yes, hell yes, and do you even have to ask?

When you have dates, let me know, I might be able to give you a couple nights at Wolf Creek Resort, I have a lot of points when they roll over. Up near Ogden, but you might want a night or so someplace nice with skiing practically outside the door.

https://www.worldmarktheclub.com/resorts/wc/

[mudpuppy000]

Are there good ski places? That would be yes, hell yes, and do you even have to ask?

When you have dates, let me know, I might be able to give you a couple nights at Wolf Creek Resort, I have a lot of points when they roll over. Up near Ogden, but you might want a night or so someplace nice with skiing practically outside the door.

https://www.worldmarktheclub.com/resorts/wc/

Wow, awesome!! Thanks!! I'm not sure what our schedule is going to be like yet but I'll let you know when we get the dates all straightened out.

[AntiM]

Are there good ski places? That would be yes, hell yes, and do you even have to ask?

When you have dates, let me know, I might be able to give you a couple nights at Wolf Creek Resort, I have a lot of points when they roll over. Up near Ogden, but you might want a night or so someplace nice with skiing practically outside the door.

https://www.worldmarktheclub.com/resorts/wc/

Wow, awesome!! Thanks!! I'm not sure what our schedule is going to be like yet but I'll let you know when we get the dates all straightened out.

Do understand that is a big maybe, I trashed our points this year. If I can, I will, although I might ask for the housekeeping fee (something like $55).

[mudpuppy000]

Are there good ski places? That would be yes, hell yes, and do you even have to ask?

When you have dates, let me know, I might be able to give you a couple nights at Wolf Creek Resort, I have a lot of points when they roll over. Up near Ogden, but you might want a night or so someplace nice with skiing practically outside the door.

https://www.worldmarktheclub.com/resorts/wc/

Wow, awesome!! Thanks!! I'm not sure what our schedule is going to be like yet but I'll let you know when we get the dates all straightened out.

Do understand that is a big maybe, I trashed our points this year. If I can, I will, although I might ask for the housekeeping fee (something like $55).

Hehe, no worries. It looks like our schedule is getting pretty full, so may not be able to spend any extra days in the SLC area.

[Ugly Dougly]

Occupy Slab City!

[tiredofbeingnice]

You do realize Yellowstone campgrounds "sell out" and reservations that week are hard to come by? Very crowded, long lines.

There's always wonderful Southern Utah, we have five national parks and state parks that are mind blowing. Valley of the Gods, anyone? Lots of wide open BLM land for camping ....

Just 2 hours north of Yellowstone is Glacier, which I find to be much more spectacular and not so crowded.

Not enough cute guys in femo shwag for me to show off to though.

You got to Glacier from Yellowstone in 2 hours? That would mean you were going somewhere around 160MPH on average for your drive, that or you are clueless. I can't decide.