waywardvirtuoso wrote:Uh craigslist faqs says scalping is fine but warns that buyers dont like it and will probably flag your post for removal. But it's totally allowed.
Now "right" and "allowed" may be very different things... But I guess I'll keep further comment there to myself.
And of course when the contrast between "Right" and "Allowed" becomes blatantly obvious a moral person is obliged to take the right action. I'm sorry if you (WWV) feel that you have to keep you opinions to your self. because you might have a valid and or better solution that you've been bullied into suppressing.
Perhaps a course of action that would have some Merit is to Petition the .ORG to take action on BRC citizen's behalf and flag those CL postings that are profiteering as offensive. and or As independent Burners complain about them Loudly and Often until other ticket buyers that would feel obliged to be exploited Say "No Skank You" and move on to a correct seller.
trilobyte wrote:If you have a problem with the rule, you are more than welcome to leave ePlaya and look for tickets elsewhere.
And We are also Free to Voice our opinion of Current policy and Propose policy changes, and judge/critique them with no fear of reprisal
And If that includes Burners exercising these rights often and loudly enough perhaps those that feel muted will also move forward and begin demanding changes.
This, coming from someone calling those who thinks a certain way "douches."
argumentum ad hominem.
And You will notice it is not people who think a certain way, it was directed at People who engage in actions, or verbally support those actions. I have absolutely no idea how others think, if I had to speculate I would say "poorly or seldom".
BBadger wrote:Yeah, thanks for the dictionary definition. Still, I've been attacking your ideas from the start, and calling you out on your claims. When I label your ideas as naive it's because it only reflects how you think the world should be, rather than what would actually be effective. Thinking that saying (loudly) "no it's not" puts the matter to rest is ridiculous at best, and yes, it reflects upon the speaker (you).
with that you are attempting to create the illusion of having refuted My proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet nonequivalent proposition (Straw Man). What I think or how I do it can in no way be derived from my stance in an argument (see above).
So far other than attacking me and my Ideas as if they are one and the same, how about defending your own unsubstantiated claims and reasoning?
BBadger wrote:Being what? My claims are already substantiated by the evidence that already exists,...
My question exactly. let's start with the Claims, what were they exactly?
Correct me if I am wrong, is your argument (paraphrased, and in my own words):?
There is no problem.
Tickets are sold out.
The market dictates the price as a reflection of buyers demand.
And I answer.
There is a problem. As is the current system of ticketing fails to reflect the ethos of the Burner community in the fact that it allows for profiteering, as I (and others) have proposed Changing the Ticket policy to better reflect the Values of our community and prevent profiteering.
The reason tickets sold out may have been inevitable, and they may have been avoidable, and remains to be determined.
The Market only works out there where there is a Free market, what we are striving after is what we already have; a Market Free zone.
A Wise Eplayan said something that helped me deal with the us/them attitude, I'd like to share it with you so you might better help me help us:
"Don't worry about the world trying to come to the playa, Start worrying about how to bring the playa to the world" ~S.O.P.