portaplaya wrote: They do not consider cellphones to be "cameras", so they are not asking for compliance tagging cellphones.
Really? Where does it say that in the policy? It doesn't. Many cellphones now take better pictures than my first digital camera. If I don't want somebody to take a digital movie of me with a camera, why would I feel any better about it if they're using their cellphone? So, if the rule actually excludes cellphones that can take movies, that makes the rule even more irrational.
"According to the 2010 PMA U.S. Camera/Camcorder Digital Imaging Survey, nearly two-thirds (61 percent) of U.S. households own at least one camera phone. In 2008, 58 percent of households owned at least one camera phone and in 2007, 46 percent of households were camera phone owners. Twelve percent of U.S. households own three or more camera phones. Eighty-five percent of camera phone owners claim they used the camera phone to take pictures in 2009. The majority of households said they used camera phones in the 2-2.9 megapixel and 3-3.9 megapixel range." http://www.demystifyingdigital.com/Phot ... index.aspx
portaplaya wrote: And your assertion that "almost every camera can take video" is certainly true for a brand new camera, but when you consider all that have already been sold, you are surely exaggerating.
I did speak imprecisely, since I hadn't meant to reference all cameras ever made. My opinion is that my statement is true for the digital cameras people will bring to Burning Man. I can't find a statistic on this, so we'll just disagree. Digital cameras has been including this feature for a long time.
In any case, the policy is meant to give people a tool to apply leverage against people shooting video without registering. Berate untagged camera holders for non-compliance. Get a Ranger. Say "no" preemptively when they try to shoot video of you.[/quote]
Usually you cannot tell, when someone is pointing a camera at you, whether they're shooting video, or just being careful in composing the still picture. What I still don't understand is why, for 99% of burners, it would make any difference at all whether the picture is still or movie.
It would make for an interesting Burn to go around berating everyone I see with an untagged digital camera (and apologizing to the ones that turn out not to have a movie mode). Not really the kind of experience I want to have, but they let in everyone with a ticket, so feel free ...
portaplaya wrote:This is a social contract. Enforce it. How does that not make sense?
When it's posted as an official policy that we supposedly accept when we use our tickets (with the tiny print on the back), it's more than a "social contract".
If it's a social contract, the one we need should apply to anyone taking a picture of me if I object. Since the vast majority of cameras at BRC are digital, this can work well because the photographer can quickly and visibly delete my picture. But, according to your analysis, we have no such social contract for any still pictures, only videos?
What does not make sense, to me, is to have a policy that is so unclear or irrational that people can't agree on what it says (e.g. your idea that phones with camera function are excluded). This creates conflict, which is not, for most of us, the reason we go to Burning Man.