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The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:26 pm

Besides, Spec is a troll.
None of this arguing thing started until he posted.
And by nature, when someone knows not what they are talking about, I respond.

So get used to it. It's a fucking message board.

You leave messages on it. If anyone does not like what I have to say they can do like I do and not read it. It's not like I am on here intentionally offending anyone. We are talking tech.
And yes, Spec is offensive. No reason to call me a "dipshit" because he doesn't know IPV6.

P.S. the first part of this message is on that last page.

by **Kinetik V** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:43 pm

http://eplaya.burningman.com/viewtopic.php?t=8306&start=0

It's an interesting read for those who don't know the story of moderation on this board.

DVD, you know the definition of a "troll" as much as anyone and while Spectabillis is many things, that is a charge that will never stick. His dipshit comment, your troll countercharge...do two wrongs make it right? No.

I'm tempted to repost the valium pic...it looks like everyone needs some to just forget about all this silly stuff.

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:46 pm

I have no problems with what you say, but nobody and I mean NOBODY is gonna be rude to me online or in person.

Sorry dude. That is the way it is.

And yes he did troll. So there.

by **wedeliver** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:58 pm

Are you a DipStick?? Take the test and find out! Perhaps it is true and you really do annoy people. Find out! Take the dipshit test below

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=dipshit

by **wedeliver** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:59 pm

Are you a DipStick?? Take the test and find out! Perhaps it is true and you really do annoy people. Find out! Take the dipshit test below

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=dipshit

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:00 pm

I'd rather have an intelligent conversation about IPV6.

I mean heck, we already know eplaya is not being hacked.

by **jkisha** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:07 pm

wedeliver wrote:Are you a DipStick?? Take the test and find out! Perhaps it is true and you really do annoy people. Find out! Take the dipshit test below

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=dipshit

WTF, I took the test--here's my results:

Grading program not complete yet. Your score for future reference is:
% 15 (513)
Although no formal grading process exists yet, you're most likely a dipshit. Check back later.

JK

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:09 pm

See, you would have been better off talking about IPV6.

by **jkisha** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:17 pm

Ah the electronic age--I'm watching the UFC on SPIKE TV and the "Caution Eplaya Hacked Again" DVD vs spectabillis thread on eplaya. What an action packed evening this is. Life is good.

JK

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:19 pm

Actually it's better at my place.

Gonna play some pool in a minute, then poker.

Maybe even write some music or at least play my bass.

Life is gooood.

Woops, I forgot.....surrounded by so many hotties.....EVERYDAY.

by **Toolmaker** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:28 pm

DVD Burner wrote:Valid arguments are one thing. AZII and I disagree on IPV6 but dont call each other names.
Not only that, it was not me that brought up the IPV6 topic first.
Believe it or not AZII makes better sense than Spec.
At least he somewhat knows what he is talking about.
This Spec thing is something else.
I have no chip, and anyone that is interested in IPV6, I am more than happy to oblige, but there is no reason to be rude.
Either one knows what they are talking about and can do it civil or they cant.

It's that simple. Spec has been pretty obnoxious.

Not only that, Spec would never dare speak to me that way in person for several reasons.
One, I'm a nice guy and second, I'm a pretty big fuckin dude.
So if he feels the need to get ridiculous on the net, great.
Otherwise.....................

You really are bored today aren't you?

Spec would likely not speak to you in person like this since you don't participate in Burningman anymore.

When WAS the last time you participated anyway DVD?

Funny how you call others trolls when they are active in the burner community.

You haven't been in HOW long?

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:01 am

Good lord!

:lol:

When how what,

what difference does it make. I participate and do my part. You dont even know what I do.

Why even care so much? What, dont try and pull the "You are more Burnier than thou" shit. So what, you've been a few more times than I?

It makes that much of a difference to you? I have a life and have been doing things for Burningman since before it was born to this day.
I've been many enough times and will again.

So what?

What's your point?

by **Toolmaker** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:14 am

DVD Burner wrote:What's your point?

by **Kinetik V** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:23 am

That's a bit over the top...DVD may be controversial on here but he's certainly not a troll.

It's crap posts like that one that makes me use this option more and more: Mark all forums read?

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:19 am

Actually I think Anti M. is more important right now.
Check the "Fuck" thread and send condolences.

by **spectabillis** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:20 am

That's a bit over the top...DVD may be controversial on here but he's certainly not a troll.

thats exactly what he is, and a socially insecure one with validation issues.

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:26 am

Well at least we tried to make this thread positive and end it there........

See?

by **spectabillis** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:29 am

no dvd, you will never allow it to end and insist its the fault of others, you still have those social insecurities and validation issues to deal with.

you are fortunate our hands were tied, because i would have kicked your ass out years ago. now there are new hands at work and the partner who decreed the policy is no longer involved. so the decision is actually simple for you, either change your ways, leave, or get the boot. its that simple. im standing by to see if things change on the org side, so maybe you will get lucky.

unfortunately one of the things in being an asshole is your past habit of posting pm's, otherwise it would be avoided here. so drop it.

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:41 am

Meh!

Whatev.

by **spectabillis** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:45 am

i said drop it, i meant it.

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:48 am

What are ya gonna do?

Beat me up?

BWWWAAAA HA HA HA HA!

Oh, and totally diggin those moderating skills ya got.

Oh wait, are you a moderator?

BWWWWWWAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA

by **spectabillis** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:29 am

so why is dvd's childish behavior condoned?

i mean really people, look at that post. how much worse can you possibly get?

you know its not funny, you know its obviously infantile and ignorant, you know he has been like this for years, and you know he will always be like this. look, simply look at that response.

that says it all people - and yet you wanted a self-moderating board, one that you obviously failed to implement. its why most have left, and why the ratio of trolls, socks, and nutjobs continue to be a problem with this behavior.

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:53 am

and the hate continues.

have a wonderful day spec.

by **spectabillis** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:04 am

you too

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:07 am

Dont know if that was a question but if it was, then nope.

Believe it not spec, I love you.

I love all my Burners. Even the ones that hate.

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:37 am

Oops! Misread that last post of yours.

Yep, you have a wonderful day also.

by **spectabillis** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:10 am

great. keep that attitude and you will make it.

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:13 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGQXv8i6Xs[/youtube]

by **Kinetik V** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:19 am

The force of hate is strong in that one.
Too bad it's like an acid that eats away your guts, your mind, and many other things. Before most people realize whats happening the damage has been done leaving them a bitter old person who is just a shell of their former selves.

It takes all types to make up a community...and last I checked...yep, it's still there:

Radical Inclusion
Anyone may be a part of Burning Man. We welcome and respect the stranger. No prerequisites exist for participation in our community.

Notice right off the bat the word ANYONE is used. Regardless of quirks, eccentricities, it doesn't matter, the BM community which this board is an extension of welcomes and respects the stranger.

Next we have this one:
Participation
Our community is committed to a radically participatory ethic. We believe that transformative change, whether in the individual or in society, can occur only through the medium of deeply personal participation. We achieve being through doing. Everyone is invited to work. Everyone is invited to play. We make the world real through actions that open the heart.

This one hits home for me. Why? Because it works, and I'm living proof of the concept. Transformative change can occur through participation with this community. My story has been splashed all over these pages going as far back as 2003 for the new board, and 2000 and earlier for the old board. Long story short, it took years for me to get my head out of my ass, but it has happened, and the eplaya and the people here were a big part of that change.

So how does this apply to DVD? Simple. Be the change you seek. If you don't like his behavior, the way to change it is not to push him away and ostracise him. That just creates stalkers and worse problems...No I'm not saying DVD would do that but my point is that behavior has a tendency to generate those results. Instead you pull him into the community, you truly adopt the 10 principles and work them to your advantage. You get someone's confidence, you work with them over time to change the bad behaviors, and in the end you gain a personal friend, and the community gains a contributor who tries to stay engaged and gives back to the community.

I know...I'm on my soapbox here and people hate that. But this board, and the 3Playa are two online places that made a huge impact in my life. They can be great forces for change, personal change. I just can't sit back and look at what's happened to me, then sit here and watch things go differently for others. I know the power of this place, and Spec, I'm sorry, but I feel you've overstepped on this one. Your message, your beliefs are not inline with the rest of the community. It harkons back to why you are no longer a moderator....you were essentially forced out. Doesn't matter how you spin it, people know the facts. But rather than use it to beat you up with years later, we should look at it as a learning experience. You have hopefully learned from it and moved on....well...have you learned from it? The hateful message of exclusion has me wondering. You can change the direction this is going. I certainly hope you choose to do so.

DVD, with all due respect, sometimes you do come across as a child. But I love your quirks, you have kept this board from being as stale as 2 week old bread left out in the sun, and God bless ya for all the cool things you've helped bring about. Between you and me, we forced this board...and others to implement plonk. We got all sorts of changes put into place that have made tracking sock puppets and real threats easier. We've forced security changes to be made. We pushed people to their limits and when they responded, they learned things. That's taking the glass half full approach...

I'll stop by saying I hope people can grow emotionally, physically, mentally, and spiritually and push past these petty issues. Because when you really step back and look at the last parts of this thread and how it turned...it shows a step backwards that nobody really needs to take.

The Original Digiman · by **DVD Burner** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:22 am

Hey, uuummmmm,

did you know that I'm a little bit eccentric?

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