A point of clarification to you hippies and newbies

[Bob]

Apropos of nothing, for as much shit as I toss the eplaya mods here, I'm thankful that they've helped make this place somewhat less likely to be trolled by anonymous ineffectual tribe.net assholes like "Uncle Sticky". That's worth a silver medal, at least.

(Insert pouty McKayla Maroney photoshop.)

[Bob]

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[Trishntek]

Just because you asked to borrow my bike Monday, does NOT mean you can take it anytime you wish the rest of the week!

[Bob]

[maladroit]

Did the gift-horse-staring morons sound put off and say "Reaally??" like somehow the pie lady weren't aware of some social norms regarding giving free stuff away?

I think there are some people forget, or never understood in the first place, the concept that they are not customers.

I wonder if some of them believe that the ticket price somehow covers the buffet.

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[BBadger]

Her head is really shaped like that bunch of craters.

[MrTetris]

@Bob Thanks!

[Lonesomebri]

....wait....wait.....wait.....am I reading this right? Following this thread it seems like there will be some vegatarians and the like at the Burn...... When did this happen? What about the bacon? Sure, with the newbies and hippies, exceptions are made......but where is this gonna end? I remember back in the day when real burners would serve hippie-bacon at their theme camps. Hmmmmmm....delicious free-range, organic fed, anemic hippie-bacon....

[misfit]

>>>>It's nice to be a member of the elite.<<<<

your just a pixel in the mass of 60K people.....

[wh..sh]

....wait....wait.....wait.....am I reading this right? Following this thread it seems like there will be some vegatarians and the like at the Burn...... When did this happen?

Roughly around 2006.

[theCryptofishist]

Eplaya represents roughly 3% of the on-playa peeps you will encounter, if that. But I do miss the snarky comments... 14 days until on-playa! woOhOo!!

Fewer if you skip the meet'n'greet...

[mamasharon]

It seems to me that those talking about people helping themselves to food and underestimating newbies are forgetting the Principle of Inclusion. Don't just go to Burning Man, live it!

[Lonesomebri]

It seems to me that those talking about people helping themselves to food and underestimating newbies are forgetting the Principle of Inclusion. Don't just go to Burning Man, live it!

Radical Self-reliance
Burning Man encourages the individual to discover, exercise and rely on his or her inner resources.

Encouraging self-reliance, over the non-principle of sponging and taking, might be the game here.

Taking something (gifts are voluntarily given)* and expecting the prepared to wipe the asses of ravers is no noble Burning Man stance.
If I run into you on the playa I'll offer you a cold one, maybe haul you around on my chariot bike, I don't care who you are as long as you're not expecting stuff from me, while giving only passive/aggresive demands. That's how I am off the playa too. I don't just go to Burning Man, I live it !!!

A couple years ago standing in line for a snowcone, the camp ran out of ice. The desert-sprite in front of me offered to make an ice run on my dime. The deal was done, and she returned with the ice. As the snowcone machine started up again, a hippie manifest himself into the front of the line mumbling something about, Is there cherry syrup for the snowcones? Shouldn't the snowcone crew take into account his expectations for cherry flavoring, to truelly be inclusive? What were they thinking? I explained how lines worked, and that there was no way in hell he was going to cut in and get a snowcone before the person who had just run for the ice neccessary for that treat received her snowcone. That harshed his burn.

"Oh man? Peace brother. We're all kindred spirits here, I'm a participant also. No worries. Is there any cherry syrup for the ice?"

I think he may have even moved to hug me during this exchange of Burner concepts. I wonder how many principles I violated as I explained to him that he was trying to cut in front of people who had waited longer, and done more, while justifying it with jive talk.

*Where did people come up with the idea that gifting/sharing/fellowship means getting stuff?

[theCryptofishist]

In search and rescue the first rule is not to become another casualty. Some of these people would be happy to suck you dry if you let them. They read "Radical Inclusion" and conclude that it gives them free rein. Was it last year that someone went to Doc's Barbies and started breaking them and when challenged said it was "his art". If ruining someone's art is your own, then don't be surprised if they decide that breaking your nose is also art.
(Not that Doc did that.)
And should we embrace the rapists at burningman? There are lines. We don't all draw them in the same place. We all exclude good people and include bad people. It's the fucking human condition.

[Finneganistan]

Ah, this is what Burning Man has been missing! A cliff to fall off of! Brilliant!

Oh, and Newbs? We love you. We really do! Because we get to re-live our first year in your amazed eyes and your jaw on the floor. Bring it!