What does BRC LLC do for the event?

[1durphul]

BRC LLC originally came into existence out of a need for an organized structure that the BLM/LEO's could interface with.

But what are they actually doing for the money we pay them annually? They don't listen to us. They aren't responsive to the participants. They don't make any effort to fix problems if they don't see an immediate benefit to the LCC for fixing it.

There are real LLC created problems, and the only problems BRC LLC seems to care about fixing are the ones that endanger their permit (and hence their livelihood)

[Simon of the Playa]

"ASK NOT WHAT THE BRC LLC CAN DO FOR YOU, ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THE BRC LLC"


duh...


now go take your geritol.

[1durphul]

"ASK NOT WHAT THE BRC LLC CAN DO FOR YOU, ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THE BRC LLC"


duh...


now go take your geritol.

Unfortunately there is nothing I can personally do to make the LLC do simple math.

For example here are a few sample numbers. The Borg undoubtedly has the real numbers available to them :
1. Gate inspections take on average 5 minutes per vehicle.
2. Monday expects approximately 10,000 vehicles to be inspected.

Now, let's do SIMPLE math using those two numbers:
1. 5 (mins avg) x 10,000 (vehicles) = 50,000 minutes of time needed for inspections on Monday.
2. 50,000 minutes/60 = approx 830 hours.
3. 830 hours/ 24 hours = ~34 lanes operating 24 hours a day.

How many lanes did they have last year? 10? 15? Is it any wonder entry on Monday and Tuesday took 5 hours?

Simple math, with simple and obvious results. If they don't have the volunteers they need to use the ticket money 25,000 additional participants has given them since they built the original 10-15 gates to build more gates, and pay minimum wage to locals for 2 days of work. 400-600 hours x 7/hr = a grand total expenditure of $2,100-$2,800. Hardly a bank breaker, and it'd make a HUGE difference to the participants who lose an entire day from their event waiting in line.

[Roberto Dobbisano]

3x(bitchin+Moaning) / 2x(whining+complaining)-(shit happens) = (get off your ass and help solve the problem by volunteering and being productive) / (gee whiz, the party in Lot D on monday night was RAGING so whats the big fucking deal)

[1durphul]

3x(bitchin+Moaning) / 2x(whining+complaining)-(shit happens) = (get off your ass and help solve the problem by volunteering and being productive) / (gee whiz, the party in Lot D on monday night was RAGING so whats the big fucking deal)

Sorry, I have a camp to setup. Our camp wasn't allocated early arrival passes, so I don't have time to volunteer for the for profit corporation.

[Roberto Dobbisano]

3x(bitchin+Moaning) / 2x(whining+complaining)-(shit happens) = (get off your ass and help solve the problem by volunteering and being productive) / (gee whiz, the party in Lot D on monday night was RAGING so whats the big fucking deal)

Sorry, I have a camp to setup. Our camp wasn't allocated early arrival passes, so I don't have time to volunteer for the for profit corporation.

yes, you just proved my point, exactly...

[1durphul]

yes, you just proved my point, exactly...

You didn't have a point. You're a Kool-Aid drinker. A simple, inexpensive, and easy solution like HIRING MORE PEOPLE is hardly worth your condescending sock puppet talk. We aren't talking rocket since here.

[Roberto Dobbisano]

[Sic Pup]

Simple math, with simple and obvious results.

- pay minimum wage to locals for 2 days of work. 400-600 hours x 7/hr = a grand total expenditure of $2,100-$2,800.

Or not.

[Roberto Dobbisano]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lstDdzedgcE[/youtube]

[jerroc]

I really don't care what Larry and his monkeys are up too. I just want to go and be apart of the shit that really matters. Its worth $320 or 5 hours of sitting in line or dealing with the hippie fucks or weekend ravers and non stop dub step. ITS FUCKING WORTH IT.

[Liz Estrada]

[Rice]

yes, you just proved my point, exactly...

You didn't have a point. You're a Kool-Aid drinker. A simple, inexpensive, and easy solution like HIRING MORE PEOPLE is hardly worth your condescending sock puppet talk. We aren't talking rocket since here.

I hate to break your bubble, but the people who work at gate are volunteers. people who give their time to make this event possible. If you want more lanes, get a bunch of friends and volunteer your time to help make this happen.

Rice

[Stickygreen]

BM is raking in lots of cash, the anual budget that gets published is so padded, I can only imagine how many people need this event to happen for them to make money. All the while the same old bullshit is fed to the "participants" without you there wouldn't be an event. Ya right, if everyone who actually did stuff at burning man stopped going, it would be a douchbag/sparkle pony meet up in the desert. The event would still be there, the portacrappers, first camp, the fire dept, the cops. They would all still be out there with a bunch of ass hats thinking it's supposed to be great.

There is a growing discontentment and one day we will take back our Burning Man.

[Snowah Zark]

Target the V2's for Berkeley

[Rice]

BM is raking in lots of cash, the anual budget that gets published is so padded, I can only imagine how many people need this event to happen for them to make money. All the while the same old bullshit is fed to the "participants" without you there wouldn't be an event. Ya right, if everyone who actually did stuff at burning man stopped going, it would be a douchbag/sparkle pony meet up in the desert. The event would still be there, the portacrappers, first camp, the fire dept, the cops. They would all still be out there with a bunch of ass hats thinking it's supposed to be great.

There is a growing discontentment and one day we will take back our Burning Man.

Show us what you mean.

[Clar-i-ty]

BM is raking in lots of cash, the anual budget that gets published is so padded, I can only imagine how many people need this event to happen for them to make money. All the while the same old bullshit is fed to the "participants" without you there wouldn't be an event. Ya right, if everyone who actually did stuff at burning man stopped going, it would be a douchbag/sparkle pony meet up in the desert. The event would still be there, the portacrappers, first camp, the fire dept, the cops. They would all still be out there with a bunch of ass hats thinking it's supposed to be great.

There is a growing discontentment and one day we will take back our Burning Man.

Did someone start a Playa Tea-Party?

[Roberto Dobbisano]

TOO SOON! TOO SOON!



ok not too soon...

[1durphul]

Did someone start a Playa Tea-Party?

WE HAVE A WINNER!!! Favorite post of the day.

[1durphul]

NICE!

[Clar-i-ty]

Did someone start a Playa Tea-Party?

WE HAVE A WINNER!!! Favorite post of the day.

You Like Me! You Really Like Me!

[Dr. Pyro]

Clarity, I really like you. And you will be missed at Barbie Death Camp this year. Have a nice hiatus sweetie.

[1durphul]

Simple math, with simple and obvious results.

- pay minimum wage to locals for 2 days of work. 400-600 hours x 7/hr = a grand total expenditure of $2,100-$2,800.

Or not.

Lol, my bad $2800-$4200 still not bank breakers.

[Clar-i-ty]

Simple math, with simple and obvious results.

- pay minimum wage to locals for 2 days of work. 400-600 hours x 7/hr = a grand total expenditure of $2,100-$2,800.

Or not.

Lol, my bad $2800-$4200 still not bank breakers.

OK, add on to that workman's comp and other liability insurance, payroll tax, the expense of doing the payroll and the expense of getting the money to people. Add about 30% to your math tea-bagger.

[Clar-i-ty]

Clarity, I really like you. And you will be missed at Barbie Death Camp this year. Have a nice hiatus sweetie.

TY Pyro! (I'm still in denial you know.)

[1durphul]

Simple math, with simple and obvious results.

- pay minimum wage to locals for 2 days of work. 400-600 hours x 7/hr = a grand total expenditure of $2,100-$2,800.

Or not.

Lol, my bad $2800-$4200 still not bank breakers.

OK, add on to that workman's comp and other liability insurance, payroll tax, the expense of doing the payroll and the expense of getting the money to people. Add about 30% to your math tea-bagger.

You know what, let's assume that five of them gets run over and sue the BRC LLC for $20k each and win. $110,000 is still not a bank breaker for their budget considering the importance of the entry process to the events functioning.

[Rice]

Simple math, with simple and obvious results.

- pay minimum wage to locals for 2 days of work. 400-600 hours x 7/hr = a grand total expenditure of $2,100-$2,800.

Or not.

Lol, my bad $2800-$4200 still not bank breakers.

2 days?? the gate has people volunteering at it for about 18 days. 24 hours a day. Thats more like 4000 hours of labour, assuming a minimum of 10 people per shift. which would not be close to what would be needed in staff to have 34 lanes open. each lane would need at minimum 2 people.

[jkisha]

Their budget and how they spend it is none of your business. Larry invented the event and whatever he can make off of it more power to him. If you don't like how your ticket money is being spent, don't buy a ticket and don't go.

JK

[1durphul]

Their budget and how they spend it is none of your business. Larry invented the event and whatever he can make off of it more power to him. If you don't like how your ticket money is being spent, don't buy a ticket and don't go.

JK

Do you need a Kool-Aid refill? Glug glug.

[1durphul]

Simple math, with simple and obvious results.

- pay minimum wage to locals for 2 days of work. 400-600 hours x 7/hr = a grand total expenditure of $2,100-$2,800.

Or not.

Lol, my bad $2800-$4200 still not bank breakers.

2 days?? the gate has people volunteering at it for about 18 days. 24 hours a day. Thats more like 4000 hours of labour, assuming a minimum of 10 people per shift. which would not be close to what would be needed in staff to have 34 lanes open. each lane would need at minimum 2 people.

2-3 days for peak entry periods M-W