The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby Simon of the Playa » Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:29 am

the less you bring in the less you have to take out.

seriously.


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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby ygmir » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:20 am

good find, Simon.
My only issue with that, is, probably half the stuff I bring, is for others, or in case others need it.
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby mytripod » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:51 pm

I made a point of swinging by the recycle place every other day to drop off my recycle stuff. Don't let it pile up. Just assign somebody to drop stuff off regularly so you don't have much at the end when they close. It's a fun place anyway.
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby mytripod » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:26 pm

Oh, and try not to get run over or cause bicycles to crazy-dodge you because you are fixated on chasing a piece of MOOP that somebody dropped. Yes, I was that crazy person zigzagging after that little wrapper blowing in the wind. :)
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby ^Rhino! » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:33 pm

Remember, LNT means 'leave no trace", not 'leave no trance", you funny people.
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby FIGJAM » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:33 am

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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby Earthwalker » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:45 am

I wonder how many cig butts they pick up, and how they pick them up. If I lower myself to smoking (advice: don't start young and you'll be fine) I'll put mine in an altoid box. But I can't imagine that the average burner, especially ones just going for the party, are going to care enough, or be sober enough, to do that. I envision a metric shit ton of butts on the ground (makes for a great image....butts on the ground).

And cig butts are never fun to pick up. They should put them all in one large pile then make a service announcement. Or build them into an art project for the following year
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby Savannah » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:04 am

Cigarette butts are among the top MOOP of actual MOOP found, however, they're not all over the ground by any means.

Most people do bring a candy tin or similar, yes.

AntiM makes fancy ones and gifts them!
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby unjonharley » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:39 am

I'll bring a coffe can to attach to a post in the front of camp..

I get a lot of large tins over a year.. Could gift them to other camps for street, butt cans.. Some of the rest of us can help by bringing gift coffee tins for butt cans
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby Earthwalker » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:21 pm

Savannah wrote:Cigarette butts are among the top MOOP of actual MOOP found, however, they're not all over the ground by any means.

Most people do bring a candy tin or similar, yes.

AntiM makes fancy ones and gifts them!


Wow, that's great. Surprised people actually do that. Would think the drunken fools would just throw them everywhere. Well done, drunken fools
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby Savannah » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:56 pm

Earthwalker wrote:
Savannah wrote:Cigarette butts are among the top MOOP of actual MOOP found, however, they're not all over the ground by any means.

Most people do bring a candy tin or similar, yes.

AntiM makes fancy ones and gifts them!


Wow, that's great. Surprised people actually do that. Would think the drunken fools would just throw them everywhere. Well done, drunken fools


Indeed. :lol: One does see a few butts on MOOP sweeps but it's not like the default world with butts everydamnwhere.

The most visible wicked MOOP (before the end of the event) is probably in the bathrooms near the large sound camps late at night. The portos are very, very good compared to what they used to be (serviced several times a day) but the size of the crowds drawn to those areas can make the portos in high traffic areas chaotic between midnight and until the service trucks arrive at dawn. Messy, and with random things stashed inside (spent glowsticks, drink containers) because not everyone remembers to carry a bag. Drunken lizard brain says "don't let it hit the playa!" and people will sometimes just leave stuff in the portos. :roll:

(These are the same folks who do not take a canteen or camelback, and then rave all night and want your water).
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby unjonharley » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:27 pm

Lot of butts are from other activity the playa host during the year..

Burning Man traffic take the dust off the butts.. I have picked up heavy dusted fire cracker (hundreds) the first morning of BM
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby lucky420 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:19 pm

if you find yourself without a tin, just put the butt in a pocket or backpack.

Make sure the butt is out first
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby unjonharley » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:37 pm

One fire I worked, had a different twist..

This farmer and wife came in the house for lunch.. After they had gone back to work.. The house started to smoke.. The fire truck was called and the fire put out..
The fire started at a kitchen chair with a sweater on it.. Nothing else was near to catch..

The farmer had left his sweater after lunch.. He was used to putting his pipe in the pocket.. When they had returned to work in the afternoon, He had left the sliding door ajar.. This made a draft of air to a forgotten ember in the pipe.. Made a smoky mess ..

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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby lemur » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:32 pm

leave no trace.

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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby Earthwalker » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:41 am

lucky420 wrote:if you find yourself without a tin, just put the butt in a pocket or backpack.

Make sure the butt is out first


Hahah, excellent recommendation!! :) Yeah though, without a filter, it gets swallowed...possibly while still lit b/c that makes the girls go "heeeeeyyyyyoooooo". With filter, it gets flicked, then put in back pocket. I envision myself picking up MOOP as I see it. I hate trash sullying our reputation.

Best way to leave no trace is live by yourself in the woods. Construct your house from fallen trees. Live at least a few hundred feet from the river/lake. Grow your own food in a diverse garden. Can and pickle food and store in root cellar. Insulate house with foliage. Warm in stove using fallen trees. Eat animals from overpopulated species (deer, wolves in some areas, etc.).

I seriously think I'd be happy doing that. Get completely out of this rat race. Give me my chedda!
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby Earthwalker » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:43 am

unjonharley wrote:Put your butt out


Hehehehe...yeah, what they said
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby lucky420 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:35 am

Yep it's good to pick up moop as you see it. I was being a good citizen last year while walking down 4:00 last year by our camp (Dye with Dignity) when I saw some moop in the road. Bent down to pick it up and BAM! was caught hippie fishing :oops:

I yelled FUCK! and just burst out laughing. The camp doing the fishing started laughing too. They offered a beer and a hug.

In my defense the dollar was covered in dust and I am extremely near sighted. Think Ms. Magoo...I really just thought it was a scrap of paper.
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Re: The Burner's Guide To Leaving No Trace

Postby Dr. Pyro » Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:08 am

And to think, I always thought "hippie fishing" was done with a bag of weed. I use dollar bills for "yuppie fishing", but maybe that's just me.
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