Kinetic II wrote:Having emerged from a personal hell with Big Pharma's "A pill can cure everything" approach to mental health management, I'd strongly encourage exercise over medical first. At least try it. Some people need the chemical approach but if you can avoid it I would certainly try to. Paying the premium on organic stuff and / or going vegetarian would be much cheaper than the approach I just got through with.
If you ever decide to ask your doctor about depression meds, please take the time and look up what your taking? rxlist.org comes to mind as a starting point. Do a Google search on the drug and see what the hits look like. I didn't do these things and I regret it. I essentially lost 2 years of my life in a deeper fog of depression than I was when I started. I don't want to scare you off nor did I mean to climb on the soapbox but I hope I can warn someone away from the personal hell I just emerged from. It's worth irritating a few people if I can save a few.
I was in that fog for over 10 years that is why I am trying other avenues. Recently it got pretty bad, and the day I decide to go back on the last meds that worked I woke up with the horible feelings that I hadn't had since I stopped them, that was the day I wrote this. I was on antidepressants intermittently form the time I was 14 till a couple of months ago and I think i would ACTUALY rather kill myself ( this isnt a threat or anything, it is just an expression of how badly I want to stay off antidepressants) Than be dependant on antidepressants again. My doctors used to justify putting me on them because it was "better than having me kill myself" OK, it's not, because I can control the suicidal thoughts a lot better when I am not on the antidepressants, or in counceling, Councelling DOESNT WORK for me, it made things worse, every time. I've had more shrinks than I can count, and they are all full of shit, the only thing that EVER worked for me was behavioral thereapy. In fact, I think Psyciatry in general ( with the exeption of behavoiral thereapy, which approaches the problem in a different way) does a lot more harm than good, at least it has in my life. I KNOW that exercise and nutrician works a lot better. I guess I should have put in my post that I work out a lot anyway. I guess I was looking for somethig beyond what I have read and stuff, I havent tryed the blood type thing. I guess I need to just get a job and shell out the money for a nutricionist, and i was wondering if anyone had any luck with that, and or knows of one they could reccomend in the bay area. I tryed jounaling what I ate to find patterns, but like most things i get lazy and quit. Its like anybody I know who has had any luck with changing their diet is COMPLETELY OBSESSED with it. The only thing I can be obsessed with is art, really. I actualy loose a lot of weight when I am working on my art a lot because I am happy even though I do stuff like skip meals and eat nothing but Taco bell for weeks on end. I was also the perfect ( helth wise for my height and feeling healthy) weight ( going up, in that case, I had been really small and sickly in high school) my freshman year at college, when I was on meal plan and I had no extra money so I just ate whatever was put in front of me, that was when I learned what an awful cook my mother was BTW, cafeteria food was SO good. I also Lost weight at burning man, Everybody does. I actually saw pictures of me at the beginning and end of the week where I looked completely different. I read that it takes about 30 days to start or break a habit, and I figure if I can forcibly remove myself from stuff that tempts me to overeat for a month I will be all set, so what I would like to do is get on the temple crew or the clean up crew and stay out there for 6 weeks or more, and I bet I could get healthy again.
BTW, No offence, and thanks for trying to help, but I don't think I could take a book by Dr. Phil Seriously. The guy is fatter than me and he is selling diet advice, WTF? I respect that he works for a lot of people, but I remember the first time I saw that guy on opera. I watched it because it was a special on add or bdd or some such nonsence, and I was diagnosed with whatever it was and they had some girl about my age on, and I rememer thinking that it was a good thing he wasnt MY shrink, because I would have gone crazier. Killing Spree Crazier. In one respect it did help me because it motivated me to take my own path, and made me realize that differnt things work for differnt people. Don't get me wrong, I used to be really screwed up, the binging thing is like my worst problem now, and i think even that is a lot healthier than standing on tall buildings and overpasses contemplating jumping, ( that was where traditonal psyciatry got me) It's cool that stuff works on some people, but the only shrink that ever worked for me had a VERY differnt personality and methodology than Dr Phil. As far as the whole depression recovery thing, I am kind of like some guy who used to be like 500 lbs and bedridden trying to loose the last 20 or 30 and run a marathon. Like if I seem depressed now, this is realy nothing compared to what I used to be like.
I took the road less traveled, and now I would like to go back and find the paved one.