people selling early arrivals?

[perfectinsanity]

Hey all
Just had a question....
I have seen some people on craigslist and ect. mention that they are selling their early arrivals passes....
This as be confused because I was under the impression that early arrivals is a sort of "your name must be on the list" thing ....

Can someone clear this up for me?

And in return...I give you...this joke....


How many hipsters does it take to change a lightbulb?


.........It's a very obscure number. I'm sure you have never heard of it.


(not a burning man joke, I know..,...but its the last kinda good one that I heard)

[actiongrl]

Early arrivals are supposed to be nontransferrable. You can switch between people on a project, but not give yours to (nor for pete's sake sell it to) another project.

[actiongrl]

PS I love that joke.

[Ace of Kittens]

From the Placement Team:

Hello Placed Theme Camps and recipients of Early Arrival Bar Code Passes:

We have seen an increase in requests for Early Arrival Bar Codes passes and we are seeing instances where they are being treated as collateral and being traded, sold or given away. Camps have been , well, er, "burned" by folks from outside camps who traded a promise of setup labor in exchange for an early arrival pass, and then left the camp high and dry, short of labor and out of passes. Don't go there.

This year the early arrival bar codes passes will reflect the name of your placer, your sector and the name of your Theme Camp. The early arrival bar code passes are not transferable.

This year all participants arriving early will be expected to have their torn ticket and their early arrival bar code pass with them at all times, in the event that Burning Man staff asks for them to confirm your authorized early presence on playa.

If we discover misuse of the early arrival bar codes , the associated batch of early arrival bar codes can be voided for that theme camp and early arrival will be denied, placement voided and this will be documented in our system for future reference. Trading, selling or giving away your camp's early arrival bar code pass(es) is not acceptable. Please do not do it.

Unfortunately, I, too, have seen EA passes being traded / sold on Craigslist. With the ticket shortage, the EA passes have become a valuable bargaining chip.

[perfectinsanity]

^_^ Thanks so much for the infoz!




Darn.....my plan of getting there early and hiding under a rock just went up in flames.

[junglesmacks]

If an EA pass is sold and traced back to the camp that sold it, the ENTIRE camp will lose their placement for the year. NO JOKE. Placement is taking this very seriously this year.


I know of this first hand..

[trilobyte]

What they said. We've been removing threads here that are either looking for or offering the trade or sale of EA passes, and in some cases the Placement team has taken action against offenders.

[The CO]

We've been removing threads here that are either looking for or offering the trade or sale of EA passes, and in some cases the Placement team has taken action against offenders.

Good. I'm quite happy to hear that.

[Ace of Kittens]

Trilo, I am glad to hear of this also!!!

I feel that it is such a joy and a privilege to be allowed to get in early and help build the city. EA passes aren't just for funsies or so you can land-grab for an unplaced camp!

[Malachi_Constant]

Darn.....my plan of getting there early and hiding under a rock just went up in flames.

I hope you were planning on bringing the rock to hide under as well... Unless you're tiny enough to fit under a black rock

[trilobyte]

It's also a practical matter of the BLM permitting process and fee structure negotiations. BMOrg needs to be able to demonstrate to the Bureau Of Land Management that they're in control of both the event and the setup process, otherwise they risk anything from dramatically increased land use fees during the days preceding the event (which would lead to a significant increase in ticket prices), to tighter permit restrictions (fewer tickets or EA passes allowed), or even possible permit denial (not very likely, but still a possibility if the BMOrg were to let things run amok).

[gyre]

I saw one possibly included with a ticket, but it was conditional on doing the work that the pass was for.

What about this?

[junglesmacks]

I saw one possibly included with a ticket, but it was conditional on doing the work that the pass was for.

What about this?

Grey area for sure. If I was a camp organizer, no way would I want to put my entire camp in jeopardy like that. I mean really.. they.. are.. not.. messing.. around.. this year! Beware!

[trilobyte]

I saw one possibly included with a ticket, but it was conditional on doing the work that the pass was for.

What about this?

If it was the one I was thinking of (a ticket offer that has since closed), they were careful to specify that it was the sale of the ticket (at face value, so there was no premium that could be attributed to the EA pass), but that the person they selected would be expected to join/become a member of the camp, camp there, and be a part of the early setup crew for that camp. The mention of the EA pass was (as I read it) to illustrate the kind of work commitment they were looking for, and that they'd work out those arrangements with the placement team. Had the placement team taken an issue with the offer, we'd have pulled it and notified the seller.

[Romper Stomper]

Maybe someone could fill me in on this as well: We need 1 more early entry pass for one of the members of our theme camp (almost all from Denver), and there is a local Burner offering an extra that they have to be given a ride from Denver to BRC, as well as some help setting up their camp. We know that this is a grey area for sure, but would this be ok? Or, should we just hedge our bets, contact our placement person, and hope for the best? I just don't know that there is any likelihood at getting a single additional early entry pass from that route but definitely don't want to anger the BMORG because of everything else going on. Any pointers would definitely be appreciated!

[Dr Jet Sinister]

Maybe someone could fill me in on this as well: We need 1 more early entry pass for one of the members of our theme camp (almost all from Denver), and there is a local Burner offering an extra that they have to be given a ride from Denver to BRC, as well as some help setting up their camp. We know that this is a grey area for sure, but would this be ok? Or, should we just hedge our bets, contact our placement person, and hope for the best? I just don't know that there is any likelihood at getting a single additional early entry pass from that route but definitely don't want to anger the BMORG because of everything else going on. Any pointers would definitely be appreciated!

All of the placers are on the playa now so you won't hear from them. If you email placement@burningman.com you should get the coordinator, but chances are slim of getting any help at this time.

[Packoderm]

I guess an exchange could be made where the buyer of the early pass helps the seller set up his or her theme camp, and then rushes on over to the land they want to grab at the stroke of midnight on Sunday. Nothing wrong with that is there?

[portaplaya]

Maybe someone could fill me in on this as well: We need 1 more early entry pass for one of the members of our theme camp (almost all from Denver), and there is a local Burner offering an extra that they have to be given a ride from Denver to BRC, as well as some help setting up their camp. We know that this is a grey area for sure, but would this be ok? Or, should we just hedge our bets, contact our placement person, and hope for the best? I just don't know that there is any likelihood at getting a single additional early entry pass from that route but definitely don't want to anger the BMORG because of everything else going on. Any pointers would definitely be appreciated!

This would probably not be acceptable.

Is the reason of the need for one more pass because this person has no other way to Burning Man except to ride with people that have early entry? If so, this is not much of a justification. To the Org this looks more like bad planning. The most effective plan would probably be to drop off the extra person in Reno and have them work out a rideshare from there (not too hard, really!) so they arrive when the Gates are open. At this point all early entry passes that the org is allowed to issue have been issued. Contacting placement (who are no longer on email, by the way, they are all supposed to be on playa now) will not get you another EA pass.

Placement issue EA passes to placed theme camps to give them sufficient camp members to build their core camp and no extras. If you are "one short" that means you do not agree with placement's assessment of your labor needs (which should have been debated earlier with them). Or that you are trying to get more people on site than you truly need to build whatever you are building.

I feel for you. It sucks when a significant other wants to ride with their honeybunny, but only one of them has EA. The only group I am aware of that gives non-labor EA passes is Rangers. Second year Rangers can get an extra EA for (only) their SO or driver. Something to think about for next year, eh?

[gaminwench]

I know of several camps who lost builders to the tickepocalypse, asked around (advertised if you will) for helpers, then gave EAs to folks with tickets who wanted to come early to help build a theme camp that isn't their 'home'.

None of those transactions involved anything besides willingness and trust.

Anything else would, IMHO, be wrong...

[trilobyte]

Maybe someone could fill me in on this as well: We need 1 more early entry pass for one of the members of our theme camp (almost all from Denver), and there is a local Burner offering an extra that they have to be given a ride from Denver to BRC, as well as some help setting up their camp. We know that this is a grey area for sure, but would this be ok? Or, should we just hedge our bets, contact our placement person, and hope for the best? I just don't know that there is any likelihood at getting a single additional early entry pass from that route but definitely don't want to anger the BMORG because of everything else going on. Any pointers would definitely be appreciated!

It is absolutely not okay. The EA barcodes are not transferrable.

While an individual placer may allow a transfer (if requested) within a camp (check with your placer), they will not allow trading, bartering, selling, or gifting of EA passes between camps. Anyone they find to be playing EA pass games runs the risk of either losing early entry for themselves, themselves + campmates, or even losing placement for their camp (as the placement team told ALL theme camp contacts in one of the regular emails they've been getting).