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by **xochi74** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:54 am

I just graduated college, and survived a rather lengthy period of illness.

I'm lucky to be alive, and to be working in my chosen field.

I was hoping to acquire a ticket if somebody cannot make it for some reason.

Me: I just beat aids, cancer, pneumonia, a burst appendix, and a gnarly spinal infection.

Though I am more stable now in my health. I did procrastinate insofar as getting in on the scholarships.

All during my sickness I was dreaming of past moments on the playa, and praying that one day I may get to go again. to dance, commune with nature, be nurtured by the fantastic people there, and to simply open up my chakras, and revel in the magical dance that art and nature can offer.

I wanna dance, laugh, take a long roadtrip across the American landscape, and be a kid for 10 days.

Burningman changed my life for the better.

The people I have met there are so amazing.

I long to go.

I am recieving my first paycheck from my new employer, and have managed to get them to agree to give me time off to attend.

I'm a chef.

I will cook you dinner if you live locally in Wisconsin, or, on the playa, if you sell me a spare ticket.

I dunno.

I just think that after a 7 year hiatus, it's time to open up my chakras, dance, share, laugh, and love.

It's these specific things that embolden me in life.

If anybody out there has a ticket I will be so grateful.

Namaste

Tim

by **Dr Helix** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:30 pm

Tim,

Look, I'll be blunt here, even though I'm not unfeeling over your situation and am glad you are beating the odds to recover from your various illnesses.

1. Eplayans tend to look suspiciously at those looking for a ticket because a ticket is just the start of the expense of coming. You are not clear as to how you would fund the rest of your needs.

2. Your gifts of cooking, etc. are old and tired. There must be six to eight of these same requests on this forum every month, plus the dreaded "DJ" person who has "got to come to spin some serious shit". This also gets the worst reaction here.

3. Never use the word "Namaste" on this forum. It may intone a good spirit to you and yours, but it's a highway to ridicule here. To much overuse by the wrong people have made it a negative.

That said, I hope you find a way to make it. Just don't count on a lot of support here. Good luck and all the best.

by **Rabbette** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:10 am

Well said Dr Helix.

by **xochi74** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:39 am

I am simply seeking to point out that passion is in my bones. That in spite of obstacles I made it. I am not seeking a gift, but rather a cheaper ticket from someone who cannot go. Yes it's true, I wish to buy it.

As for namaste, it's a beautiful statement. Stop being such a bitter hippie.

by **oneeyeddick** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:49 am

He was not being nasty, just pointing out the truth about Namaste and it's use on this board.

if you truly believe in the word, then you are a hypocrite with the above statement.

by **theCryptofishist** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:01 am

Dr. Helix--
You forgot to warn him about Chakras. Not that it would have done him much good, apparently. That whole thing about not listening to good advice doesn't make him any more appealing.

by **oneeyeddick** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:08 am

He could improve his chakras by sharing how he "beat" AIDS so that others may know the cure also.

by **Mojojita** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:43 am

*Sigh*

Oh Tim, Tim, Tim........

If you keep looking on this ticket thread, occasionally a good, honest person will sell their lower tier tickets. If you check craigslist, occasionally a good, honest person will sell their lower tier tickets.

If you expect someone to jump all over selling you their low tier ticket because you "deserve" it or will cook for them, you are beyond misguided. Dr Helix gave you excellent advice and you handed it back to him poorly. I, for one, have learned to detest the word "Namaste" as a statement of how cool the user wants us to think he/she is. It truly has the opposite effect.

Good luck in your ticket search.

P.S. You really are being treated kindly here.

by **BBadger** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:39 am

Mojojita wrote:If you expect someone to jump all over selling you their low tier ticket because you "deserve" it or will cook for them, you are beyond misguided.

Actually, I've never understood why any person thinks that this is a forum where you name your price and people are so desperate to sell that they jump all over your offer. It's just about as idiotic as the people who try and sell their full-price ticket for the same price as ordering direct.

by **ygmir** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:46 am

seems I remember Simon having a good "Namaste" poster of some sort..............

I'm not so sure, if the O.P. has that much wrong with him, I'd want him cooking for me, anyway.......

bug, good luck in your search:

or, is this a ruse?

by **xochi74** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:16 am

ygmir that is a very ignorant, rude, uncool, thing to say. One cannot contact hiv from food this is documented in any food safety class.

Thanks for all the smacking down folks.

I managed to get as ticket for 250. Yay. Found a few people who needed a ride and am going to pick them up. It seems that there are a number of trolls on this site. I may have poorly worded my initial topic. Yet it all had to do with the notion of mind over matter.

I'm supposed to be dead. Yet I managed to go from 12 t-cells to 700. reduced this virus to nothing, fought off every opportunistic infection, and still stayed in school. Still fought for what I was dreaming for.

I earned my degree under the harshest of circumstances. It took me two years to fight. Now a days things are way better.

To slap someone down who is simply trying to share what he thinks is a rather inspiring story is beyond me.

I was not looking for freebies, was not looking for any handout period. JUST A LOWER PRICED TICKET!

In times past I was asked to tell tales of why a cheaper ticket was in order.

All I know is that I am really glad I get to see my friends from all over the planet. That I am still alive. That I survived something that took out 20 million people.

That I have the strength to travel again. That I am thriving again.

This trip is about burning away those periods of illness.

This trip is about renewal.

It has nothing to do with poor poor me please give me...

It is about sharing, smiling, laughing, makin art, so rather than prejudge some newcomer to eplaya. How about listening to a guyu who has been going to bm since 1994.

I simply took a few years off due to school. I got really sick in school.

I survived.

So why crucify with a state ment of "I'm not so sure, if the O.P. has that much wrong with him, I'd want him cooking for me, anyway.......

bug, good luck in your search: "

That's just ignorant and cruel.

shame on you.

by **BBadger** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:52 pm

See the problem here is that people have this weird illusion that there is incentive for sellers to go seeking out buyer threads on the forum rather than just posting the ticket(s) for sale and letting buyers come to them.

These threads just end up being entertainment for everyone else for snark, for questioning the statement of need/sob stories of the asker, and to give the fundamental advice that if you can't afford to pay full price you probably can't afford everything else needed to go to BM in the first place. I don't think I've ever seen a successful free/cheap ticket asking thread.

by **oneeyeddick** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:26 pm

I don't know... somehow Laughing Forest ends up going every year.

by **capjbadger** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:54 pm

oneeyeddick wrote:I don't know... somehow Laughing Forest ends up claiming going every year.

Fixed.

-Badger

by **Savannah** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:20 pm

All better now. :lol:

by **AntiM** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:22 am

xochi has left the building.

by **ygmir** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:35 am

dang, and, I didn't get to defend my statement.
it was not about HIV........it was that all of the ailments, in total, and, how if that weak, and that sick, a person is going to cook, and cook well.

damn hypersensitive hippies.

by **MyDearFriend** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:17 am

ygmir wrote:dang, and, I didn't get to defend my statement.
it was not about HIV........it was that all of the ailments, in total, and, how if that weak, and that sick, a person is going to cook, and cook well.

damn hypersensitive hippies.

Yeah his whole intro was so unbelieveable... honestly, who thinks that saying you've been sick for years will persuade folks to let you touch their food? :roll:

Geez I would not even want him to open my beer... :shock:

NOT worried about HIV (a very fragile organism) but of all the little nasties that move in on the chronically ill. No offense y'all but, if you have been sick please let ME wait on YOU.

by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:44 am

I do sort of hate those "Power of Positive Thinking" type people. (No, I wont use "Power of Positive Thinkers" thank you very much mr grahammarian.) Maybe we should have made him read that Barbara Ehrenreich book...

by **Minxy** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:16 am

I have no problem with someone seeking a lower priced ticket.

What I do object to is hearing a sob story first.

I'm fully sympathetic with all of the OP's issues and travails and I'm really happy he's gotten through them. Sincerely.

I am offended when someone uses their personal issues as justification for why I should sell them a lower priced ticket.

Just state what you're looking for and the price range! Nothing wrong with a want ad. Be clear about what you're seeking and your price range, location, etc. Don't give me a sob story about surviving and triumphing over illness, having 10 kids to feed, being out of work, homeless, full of positive energy but brainless...whatever!

It's not that I don't feel for you, but I will not sell you a ticket because you are living a life just like everyone else is!

If I had a ticket for sale I'd sell my ticket to the person who is attempting to be as self-reliant as possible and isn't WHINING or BEGGING or attempting to elicit pity with a sob story about how hard they have it.

I don't know them, they aren't a personal friend and starting out by pouring out how woefully unprepared they are to go to this event isn't going to cause me to help them.

Grumble. Grumble, grumble. Cranky today.

by **AntiM** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:30 am

He seemed genuinely hurt that he hadn't been embraced as a returning warrior in his PM. I gave him the usual advice, not to judge the event by a handful of responses, but no, he sold his ticket (he says).

The playa provides. The eplaya provides snark.

... and so much more ...

by **Dr Helix** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:48 pm

AntiM wrote:He seemed genuinely hurt that he hadn't been embraced as a returning warrior in his PM. I gave him the usual advice, not to judge the event by a handful of responses, but no, he sold his ticket (he says).

The playa provides. The eplaya provides snark.

... and so much more ...

Hey, I tried to warn him about eplaya. Minxy you are right on the nose. The guy's thread was entitled "In search of a lower tiered ticket" All that drivel about how he has beat the odds, etc. just smacked of a sob story. And after hearing it not once, but TWICE, what'd he save? $30.00 And he could have done better if he just waited and perused the ticket thread. And now he's whining to you AntiM? What a putz.

by **theCryptofishist** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:37 pm

Oooh! Oooh! Does that mean that next year we get a "I Triumphed over Putzitude and Want a Tier 2 Ticket" thread?

by **lucky420** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:30 am

Minxy +1

by **sunrae** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:50 am

Hey all,
Okay so I've been using eplaya now for a few short weeks, and I've managed to cyber-meet some cool people, hear some funny stories, find some great advice as well as procure a ticket in the price range that I was searching for. Yay! Thanks to all of those who helped me in any way, I appreciate it. I just received my ticket in the mail today. :-)

I do find it interesting, however, reading these threads over and over again that all seem to have the same thing going on in them. Person seeks lower tier ticket, tells their story (whatever it may be-- sob story or not) and then being jumped on very harshly by the people on eplaya... While I did not offer any sort of sob story while searching for my ticket, my signature includes "namaste" and I was ridiculed for that, even as somebody who has practiced yoga for ten years. I get it-- the term is overused, blah blah blah... but I just keep having the hardest time trying to understand why people are so quick to criticize others for word choice.

The sob story thing is another issue- EVERYBODY has problems, issues, troubles in their lives so the sob story thing gets kind of stale after a while. BUT, can we please please PLEASE try to lighten up with the word choice issue? I don't know why this bugs me so much, but arguments regarding ticket-beggars seem to lose their validity when you throw in "oh yeah, DON'T say namaste, because people will automatically think less of you". It just seems so silly to me. I also feel like a lot of the people who come to this forum probably have partaken in some sort of activity or belief where namaste is practiced as a word and idea very frequently. And even if they haven't, what's the big deal. It is a word and, while it might seem silly or overused to you, maybe it is important to somebody else. I don't like these personal jabs people, WE'RE BETTER THAN THAT!!!!

This being said, I DO see that this site has a lot to offer in terms of kind words, solid advice, helpful hints and new e-friends that may soon become real life friends. I just wish we could all be a little more kind, that's all. If you saw a homeless person begging for change on the street and he says "God Bless", would you say "GEEZ, stop saying that because now I'm DEFINITELY not sparing any change because all of you homeless-type people ALWAYS SAY GOD BLESS!!!!" I don't know, maybe that's a bad example but it's the first thing I thought of. Heh

Okay, that's all folks... sorry but I just had to vent that. Have a lovely day, see ya in the dust! :-)

by **Minxy** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:18 pm

Hey Sunrae! Did you and that guy work that out on that ticket?!?! SWEET!!!

I'm so glad.

I was worried for a bit, there, hehe.

I get your point on the namaste issue, but that is the culture here (just my observation, I've stalked here a long time only recently posted much). People can take it or leave it but it's the reality of this board. In my opinion, people should ascertain the culture of their audience before they post/ask for tickets/beg.

by **Savannah** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:21 pm

Word choice is all we have . . . unless there are picture posts. So I doubt that people will stop paying close attention to that soon. People are reacting to what they would consider the abuse of "namaste" by trolls/assholes/scoundrels in the fairly recent past. Anyone who hasn't been here long wouldn't know that. Another word that has become unintentionally hilarious: "massage". Massages are, well, awesome, but on ePlaya it's become hilarious code. There is not much that can be done about it, because . . . new people keep offering massages. Mirages! THEY WON'T STOP. :lol:

People who arrive here in a rush and make requests without observing the culture first have a 50/50 chance of getting flame, flames . . . flames . . . on the side of their faces.

I'm glad you stuck around long enough to see that this online culture is a complex one. But if we're really so much "better" than that, visit sometime, and be a force for good.

by **Minxy** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:35 pm

Lol!!! Oh, ya, Savannah you just reminded me.

When I first started posting here I posted (I think on a gifting thread) that I planned on gifting massages out on the playa and Simon mocked me. I actually thought it was funny at the time, but since then it's become more hysterical to me...and I'm a massage therapist.

I promise to give energy work, love and light, massage, cook you dinner and I'll DJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I'm not a DJ) for anyone who gives me a free ticket....ooohhhhhmmmm...

/chortle

by **Savannah** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:41 pm

That's great, Minxy. :lol:

The funny thing is that a massage offered out on the playa (with some anti-alkali measures) is a great gift.

by **Minxy** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:48 pm

Oh, yes, I've had great fun and people seemed quite happy to get massages.

But offering massage work for a ticket when people don't know the quality or monetary value of the product that's being offered or your credentials (crappy massage compared to skilled) seems sketchy to me. Go work and do your massage, make money and BUY a ticket.

The perception of a massage's quality can be really relative.

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